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Post by LaFille on Jul 31, 2007 1:09:27 GMT
It depends right on what. ;D
If you had a homeless person not looking so clean that wanted to hug you, would you let him/her?
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Post by ss on Jul 31, 2007 2:32:31 GMT
Yes, absolutely.. Would you let an insult go by without trying to play payback.?
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Post by Galadriel on Jul 31, 2007 11:06:59 GMT
Depends from who the insult came, if it was from a random stranger I don't care, if I got insulted by one of my friends, I wouldn't know what to do for a payback though. I'm not used to stab my friends in the back
What would you choose, Paris or London?
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Post by Ubereil on Jul 31, 2007 12:28:34 GMT
If I believed he existed, yes.
If you came to a river and saw an old hobo and your beloved dog drown, and you could only save one of them, who would you save?
Übereil
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Post by Galadriel on Jul 31, 2007 12:35:10 GMT
If I believed he existed, yes. If you came to a river and saw an old hobo and your beloved dog drown, and you could only save one of them, who would you save? Übereil Ubs, to what question did you reply actually?
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Post by cleglaw on Jul 31, 2007 12:48:13 GMT
If I believed he existed, yes. If you came to a river and saw an old hobo and your beloved dog drown, and you could only save one of them, who would you save? Übereil Ubs, to what question did you reply actually?He replied to me.
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Post by Galadriel on Jul 31, 2007 12:52:12 GMT
Oh ok, if you mean with old hobo the music instrument, then I would save my dog of course, there are enough music instruments but your pet is unique.
So what would you choose, Paris or London? ;D
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Post by Ubereil on Jul 31, 2007 14:11:18 GMT
London. I don't speak french...
And as Cleglaw said, I replied to his question (new pages are evil...).
If you could choose between an old homeless man (with a drinking problem and a foul odour) and your dog, who would you save?
(And what is a hobo instrument? This is just a sidenotequestion, the real one I've allready asked.)
Übereil
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Post by cleglaw on Jul 31, 2007 18:25:46 GMT
"If you could choose between an old homeless man (with a drinking problem and a foul odour) and your dog, who would you save?"
This question assumes that one would have foreknowledge that only one of the two could be saved. If one indeed had foreknowledge of the future, one would inevitably make the best choice. If on the other hand, foreknowledge is not presumed, then one would attempt to save both. Either the man would be saved first as a natural matter, or the one who was easiest and quickest to save would be saved first. Then of course the second one would die as we did not have foreknowledge that only one would be saved.
Inherent in this question is also the presumption that one knows that the man in danger is homeless and has a drinking problem. How would you know that? Would you interview him before saving him? Likewise the information given about the dog is limited in scope. All we know is ownership. Is the dog a vicious killer? Is the dog about to die anyhow due to advanced age? Is the dog healthy in the prime of his life?
Many people kill their dogs when they get old and diseased, but we do not kill people in this way--at least not as a matter of public policy. Personally I do not agree with the killing of dogs just because they are sick.
And what sort of death are we saving them from? A flood? A fire? An illness? Why can only one be saved? Time? Money?
Answer me all of these questions and I will entertain a response.
Would you answer this question with more paragraphs than I just used?
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Post by Elliot Kane on Jul 31, 2007 19:17:28 GMT
No. If it were my dog (Who is long dead, sadly), 99.9% of the human race would be well down the list, drunken hobo or not.
How horrified are you by my admission, here? ;D
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Post by Ubereil on Jul 31, 2007 20:47:21 GMT
Not very. I'm too annoyed by Clegs response (those things you point out isn't relevant to the problem, and you know it...).
The real question is: Would you save your dog (or cat, or whatever) over a human person you don't know if you knew that only one could be saved? Would the answer differ if you knew that the person was someone "less worth" (like a drugaddict or homeless person)?
Übereil
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Post by cleglaw on Jul 31, 2007 21:44:38 GMT
Not very. I'm too annoyed by Clegs response (those things you point out isn't relevant to the problem, and you know it...). The real question is: Would you save your dog (or cat, or whatever) over a human person you don't know if you knew that only one could be saved? Would the answer differ if you knew that the person was someone "less worth" (like a drugaddict or homeless person)? Übereil I answered your question in a light hearted way (though in a debate or philosophical argument the points I raised would indeed be valid). Apparently though you wish a serious answer so I will give you one. The real issue behind your question is do you value the life of a man over the life of a dog. And does a man's deeds place the value of his life any higher or lower. A man's life is of higher value to me. Having said that, I would like to point out the following: All creatures have a right to life, and what we cannot give we should not take away. Which one would I save? If somehow I could know ahead of time that only 1 could be saved, I would save the man. But, it is an artificial hypothetical situation with many potetial variables, and I could not absolutely rule out the other path if circumstances dictated it. --------------------------------- Now take your pick of a serios question or a flippant one. Do you or would you lead a clean moral life and why? or Would you answer this question with more paragraphs than I just used or would you rather kiss a duck?
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Post by ss on Jul 31, 2007 22:05:29 GMT
Can I answer this one... ;D I would rather lead a moral life (even though morals are subjective to cultures) because everyone has a conscience and admit it or not, guilt always comes home to roost. Therefore, you feel better about yourself if you are doing your best to live a life that at least YOU consider moral. Besides, violating your own moral code always works on your mind and body. Why would you question whether or not you would save a human before a dog... (could that be a moral dilemma).?? ;D Already kissed a duck... ;D
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Post by cleglaw on Jul 31, 2007 22:39:40 GMT
Why would you question whether or not you would save a human before a dog... (could that be a moral dilemma).?? ;D Already kissed a duck... ;D I agree that it is an odd question, but perhaps it has some special significance for Ube. If you bought chapstick for a duck and it came time to pay would you put it on his bill?
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Post by ss on Aug 1, 2007 1:24:20 GMT
;D
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Post by janggut on Aug 1, 2007 2:49:19 GMT
ss, how far would u go in posting before u ask a question of How Far Would You Go? ;D
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Post by Galadriel on Aug 1, 2007 7:40:19 GMT
(And what is a hobo instrument? This is just a sidenotequestion, the real one I've allready asked.) Übereil Hobo
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Post by Dark Phoenix Rising on Aug 1, 2007 10:25:51 GMT
we call that an oboe
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Post by cleglaw on Aug 1, 2007 11:12:26 GMT
ss, how far would u go in posting before u ask a question of How Far Would You Go? ;D 967 posts. ¿ǝɔuǝʇuǝs sıɥʇ pɐǝɹ oʇ ɹǝpɹo uı ob noʎ p1noʍ ɹɐɟ ʍoɥ
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Post by Galadriel on Aug 1, 2007 11:24:03 GMT
No trouble for me at all, so not that far I guess ;D
How far would you go for a nice BBQ?
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