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Post by Terrordar on Jul 9, 2005 4:31:25 GMT
I just got back.
I agree with Steve's points, its solid for the most part. I enjoyed it, I thought it was very amusing at many points as well.
I was worried about the director, but he did well, thats my biggest surprise.
Also, Dr. Doom WAS the weakest point... though sadly he reminded me of Adam with a far worse motive... Yes, very sad indeed.
Anyway, to continue, all around, it was good, but I think that SUe was not as good as she COULD have been. Alba did an ok job, but I just didn't really see *sue* per say, but considering everything else, she managed to keep up with everyone else.
Those are just my 2 cents.
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Post by philster on Jul 9, 2005 11:57:45 GMT
I didn't really see the essence of Sue either (just couldn't get past it being Alba), but all things considered, this movie was a fun Fantastic Four movie.
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Post by Shan on Jul 9, 2005 19:03:25 GMT
Thanks Steve, Phil, Terrordar for your reviews. I think we are going to go see it this coming week. I also think we are going to try to catch War of the World too. War of the Worlds appeals to my husband more than FF4, but he'll survive ;D and I would kinda like to see both. ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/smiley.png) Shan ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/smiley.png)
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Post by sps1000 on Jul 10, 2005 1:17:28 GMT
Good movie. Chris Evans definetly stole the show for me, Thing was great also. Sue and Reed were good but I haven't been that big of a fan of them so I didn't notice. Though Doom was definetly the weakest link for me. I mean where to start... maybe the costume only the mask was perfect, also Doom's voice was off when he was in costume, the mask didn't sound metallic.
One minor thing is the movie used too much dark hues. FF has always been a light hearted superhero adventure comic to me. FF felt it was trying to be too much like X-Men.
Anyhow back to the good, I liked the soundtrack, likely buy it. They also got the relationships down for the most part though as I said before Johnny definetly stole the show.
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Post by Shan on Jul 10, 2005 2:22:12 GMT
Thanks SP. Seems like everyone so far has enjoyed the movie. ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/smiley.png) Like I said before, it is sometime next week for me, but will post after I have seen it. Since all of you guys are FF4 comic fans, I wonder what I will think not being one. Could be interesting. ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/smiley.png) Shan ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/smiley.png)
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Post by philster on Jul 10, 2005 2:54:19 GMT
Chris Evans didn't need to save this movie, but he was definitely its star. I'm more of a fan of the Human Torch already, thanks to him.
Edit: Shan, I'm not that much of a fan of FF to begin with, either. lol
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Post by Sir Ped of Ro on Jul 10, 2005 7:07:46 GMT
i won't say i'm eager to see it (and i'ma major FF fan) but i'll go see it during the summer holidays at Portugal. but i'm already happy with the overral reviews: not as bad as hulk/DD, good characterization, nice acting from some actors... either i like it or not, the most important to me would be not to ruin the characters/history/legacy...in the eyes of the big audience.
regards
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Post by hector on Jul 11, 2005 6:41:37 GMT
I'd put it somewhat above DD. Shares many of the deficiences and yet the script is not as terminally stupid.
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Post by philster on Jul 11, 2005 7:56:09 GMT
I liked Daredevil, but whatever ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/smiley.png) But I would also rate this movie above Daredevil as well ;D Daredevil is one of these movies I have started to like less the more I watch it. So I guess that's not a good thing huhn. On the flip side, I definitely still rate it much higher than Hulk, the worst comic book movie I have ever seen. ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/smiley.png)
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Post by hector on Jul 11, 2005 8:12:38 GMT
I liked Daredevil, but whatever ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/smiley.png) I enjoyed it to a degree, somewhat entertaining but not a good movie by any definition. I'd rather watch DD over Hulk anytime, though. Unless I'm having trouble sleeping. I still wholeheartedly give that honor to Batman and Robin, provided that I haven't, and don't plan to, watched Catwoman.
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Post by philster on Jul 11, 2005 8:19:37 GMT
I think Batman Returns was a worse movie than either Batman Forever or Batman and Robin, but besides I keep in mind that the people behind Batman and Robin was aiming to make it a zany comedy, which they succeeded, it just wasn't what fans of Batman wanted.
I don't plan to watch Catwoman either.
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Post by hector on Jul 11, 2005 8:33:24 GMT
I think Batman Returns was a worse movie than either Batman Forever or Batman and Robin, but besides I keep in mind that the people behind Batman and Robin was aiming to make it a zany comedy, which they succeeded, it just wasn't what fans of Batman wanted. Given the reviews, Box Office and regret for almost anyone involved in it, it wasn't a movie anyone wanted. Batman Returns was less and less a Batman movie, and more a Tim Burton movie. Which isn't so bad on its own. I was hugely dissapointed by FF, maybel I'll write a column. ![:P](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/tongue.png)
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Post by philster on Jul 11, 2005 10:42:54 GMT
Given the reviews, Box Office and regret for almost anyone involved in it, it wasn't a movie anyone wanted. Batman Returns was less and less a Batman movie, and more a Tim Burton movie. Which isn't so bad on its own. And THAT's where our opinions differ, I think. Neither of these movie promoted the Batman as we know him. They both showed us different versions of Batman. I just prefer Batman and Robin's Batman to Batman Return's Batman (though I liked the first Burton movie better than either one). In the end though, Nolan's Batman blows 'em all out of the water. Sorry about that man. Yeah, it wasn't a great superhero movie, but eh. Still a cute film; my mom liked it. It's still way better than that FIRST Fantastic Four movie that was never made ![:D](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/grin.png)
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Post by hector on Jul 11, 2005 11:32:00 GMT
And THAT's where our opinions differ, I think. Neither of these movie promoted the Batman as we know him. They both showed us different versions of Batman. I just prefer Batman and Robin's Batman to Batman Return's Batman (though I liked the first Burton movie better than either one). Being how Batman has had so many incarnations in the past, neither Returns nor Shcumacher's travesties portrayed a wholy new Batman. Just not the Batman you (and I) particularly like much. I think it's time to go back at pretending Batman Begins is the only Batman movie ever made. My girlfriend loved it. I dunno, maybe I'm just too harsh when it comes to superhero movies. Not particularly because of the faithfullness or lack of it, but because I want them to be good. I'd like to check that one, too. ![:D](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/grin.png)
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Post by Tsel on Jul 11, 2005 13:20:29 GMT
I like F4. I thought the essence of the characters personalities was captured very well in the movie. Yes, some characters did not spotlight like others, but the movie, I thought, was mainly about showing the viewer why the characters are what they are emotionally and psychologically. When I read my first F4 comic and saw my first F4 cartoon, I always saw Doom as one of those villains that could have been one of the good guys. I don’t know why, but I always felt that. My impression of Doom being a bit weak in this F4 movie was the fact that he was new to his powers, and his megalomania got in the way of his true intellect, and common sense. Of which, he well enough makes up for later; maybe we'll see that in another movie. Yes, The Human Torch stole the show, but boy did they nail the sadness you always feel for The Thing. He’s a big strong guy, but his feelings are always getting crushed. ![:(](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/sad.png) Tsel ![:-/](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/undecided.png)
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Post by philster on Jul 11, 2005 13:53:09 GMT
That's a good observation on Doom, Tsel. He was probably driven a bit insane (especially when he noticed a scar on his otherwise beautiful visage ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/smiley.png) ) Well, the Doom of the comics was always a bit insane, too... Who knows, Doom may come back with a vengeance but also with a better grip on himself and his power-hungry ambitions. And good observation on the sadness of the Thing being nailed, but ... (Spoiler) >> I thought he was a bit of an idiot when he restored his own powers, even if it was to save Reed.<< After all that complaining and weeping, I couldn't believe he would do that. Oh well.
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Post by hector on Jul 12, 2005 2:56:45 GMT
The movie had the fourth biggest opening here in Mexico. In some ways, the FF are more beloved here than in the US. Go figure.
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Post by philster on Jul 12, 2005 4:36:06 GMT
FF also had a pretty good opening in America too - over 50 million from what I hear.
Probably won't come close to Star Wars III but probably going to over-take Batman Begins if this keeps going.
Guess we're headed for a FF sequel. I'm kinda happy, I think they might be able to do better in the sequel.
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Post by philster on Jul 12, 2005 4:37:14 GMT
Yeah, $56 million. A lot better than I thought it would do.
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Post by philster on Jul 12, 2005 4:43:21 GMT
Probably won't come close to Star Wars III but probably going to over-take Batman Begins if this keeps going. Then again, Batman Begins has gone up to $171 million - so maybe not. Last I had checked it was still at around $130.
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