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Post by Sir Ped of Ro on May 3, 2007 15:12:01 GMT
to everypne
so...anyone saw it? what are your toughts?
without going into details, imho this is the weaker one from the 3 movies...not a bad "popcorn/summer movie", but nothing to "write home about".
will discuss in a more lenghty mode later on...
regards
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Post by sps1000 on May 3, 2007 17:12:59 GMT
I would please ask if anyone has seen the movie please wait until midnight eastern time tonight to post spoilers so people who live in America aren't spoiled.
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Post by sps1000 on May 4, 2007 13:06:34 GMT
spoilers are okay now! Can't wait to see the film. Be seeing it on Saturday for sure.
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Post by Venom65437 on May 4, 2007 18:47:58 GMT
If you haven't seen it, DON'T READ THIS POST! I'M GOING TO SPOIL THE WHOLE DAMN THING!!! I'M NOT KIDDING!!!! I'M REALLY GOING TO DO IT!!!!! LAST CHANCE!!!! DON'T SAY I DIDN'T WARN YOU!!!!!! First, let me just say, I was VERY dissappointed that Venom didn't kill Spidey when he had the chance. Why do villians waste so much time? He could have easily put that rod through Spidey's throat, or just lobbed his whole damn head off!! :twisted: In all seriousness, I wished Venom had been in the movie a little more. The action with Venom was incredible, and I thought the look worked well on the screen. I thought that Venom should of had a scarier voice, but it's no big deal. I also thought he was beaten kinda easily, but oh well. The Sandman was GREAT! They really did a great job with his powers and making him a legit threat. Him teaming up with Venom at the end was spectacular, with Sandman being this huge sand monster, I enjoyed that a lot. I also liked Harry a lot too, the fights with him and Peter were well done, and it was even cool to see them team up at the end and make up before Harry died. I'm still not crazy about Harry's get up, but again I thought it wasn't too bad in motion. They did a great job making Harry and Peter's feud even more personal. Also, Bruce Campbell, one of my gods was just hilarious in his scene, I laughed my ass off. Of course, J.J. was great in his scenes too, I wish they would throw in a few more, I don't know that ANYONE nails their role better than J.J. And who says the movies don't cater to comic fans? We even got a clone saga, MJ [Censored] slap! In all seriousness, just like when it happened in the comic, that just made me uncomfortable, I didn't really like it. I know that they were trying to get across, but Peter already came off as enough of a douchebag just showing up at the club and doing what he was doing. By the way, "bad" Peter looked like some emo kid from high school, it was just.... jeez, how about all his dancing and pointing in the street, talk about a white boy. Hahaha. Connecting the Sandman to Uncle Ben's murder didn't bother me either. I know some people were worried about how that would work out, but in the end I thought it was just fine. One final thing I want to mention, and maybe it's just cause MJ is one of my favorite characters or whatever, but I wish her and Peter had said SOMETHING in the final scene... ANYTHING. I mean, I took it as they'll be alright, but still.... just SAY SOMETHING TO EACH OTHER DAMMIT! I think she should of at least told Peter that Harry made her break up with him. Not that Peter kissing Gwen in front of MJ (as Spidey of course) wouldn't of been grounds... in my book anyway to break up, but still. They definitely should have said something. Well, that's all I can think of that I want to say... for the moment. :wink: I totally loved the movie, like I knew I would. Seeing my favorite villian on the big screen was great. I'll probably go see this movie a few more times while it's in the theather. This was great.
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Post by Terrordar on May 5, 2007 0:38:30 GMT
I just saw it, and it was great. The real thing I was disappointed by wasn't Venom, I thought he was done GREAT. It was how venom DIED. He died like a PUSSY. At least Doc Oc had a big flashy exit, Venom died like a chump.
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Post by sps1000 on May 5, 2007 21:34:06 GMT
I saw it a couple hours ago and am ready to make my comments. First off let me say that Venom appearing for only five minutes in the film bugs the hell out of me. He coulda been a contender! Venom looked great but I think Venom and Harry's threads could've been split into seperate films. Spider-Man 3's main theme was forgiveness. Harry forgave Peter for what he thought happened to his father and Peter forgave Flint for murdering his uncle.
The Venom thread was a completely different thread or one of revenge. Speaking of Venom am I the only one who thinks he didn't die? I mean he could have left some of his body behind and at the last second rebonded to Brock and leapt away. It's a long shot but I refuse to believe they killed off a villain with only five minutes of screen time in his symbiote covered belt.
Speaking of Venom my doubts about Venom on screen were unfounded as Venom looked surprisingly good for the brief time on screen. The black costume also looked amazing. I thought for sure I wasn't going to like it but then I noticed the subtleties of it that made it the same costume but ultimately very different. For example the bigger eyes than Spidey's normal costume.
Acting wise I thought the film was great. JK Simmons stole every scene he was in and I'm glad he got more screentime than before. Kirsten Dunst and Tobey Maguire are so comfortable in their roles that they were perfect. Topher Grace and other guy were good also. Gwen should've gotten more screentime as I think Dallas looked dead on but she was a bit of an airhead. The real surprise for me was James Franco he had me so convinced that he wouldn't fall back into his old tricks that I forgot it was inevitable for him to become the Goblin. I just got that caught up in the flow of the movie.
Overall I would rate this film better than Spider-Man 2 but not as good as Spider-Man 1.
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Post by Venom65437 on May 6, 2007 0:08:45 GMT
Well Dr. Connors still has the sample of Venom, so I suppose he could pull himself together from that.
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Post by Gray Lensman on May 6, 2007 0:22:15 GMT
Okay, I finally went to see Spidey 3. Though I technically saw the first hour or so twice. The speakers in my theatre got shot to hell, and the dialogue went dead on the first showing. So I got a free pass to the next one, which worked out better. Anyway, I found Spidey 3 to be surprisingly good, considering how disappointed I was by the second one. I didn't go in with any real expectations, because honestly I didn't want to be let down. Fortunately, it wasn't needed. Normally, I would expect a movie with three major villains to not work. That wasn't the case here. In fact, all three were properly developed and had a workable motivation to be involved as they were in the story. All in all, though, Peter is his own worst enemy in this film, though the film manages to use the Venom symbiote as a metaphor for Peter's dark side. I also liked the ending that Harry got, finally... it suited him and actually ends the Osborn legacy on a brighter note. This movie also succeeded in making me like the Sandman, who has never really impressed me much in the comics. This film gave Marko a stronger reason to be a super-thug, and he comes across as a much more sympathetic figure for it. Church's portrayal of Sandman was also quite strong... he looked like a hardened criminal, but there's a haunted presence he brings to the character too. Very well done. My only real fault in the whole film is that the alliance between Venom and Sandman seemed a bit contrived. "We both want to kill the spider." Really? Since when? Venom has entirely valid reasons to seek revenge, sure, but Sandman? Sandman's real motive is to get money to help his little girl. Even after the fight with Venom, Sandman doesn't seem interested in revenge against Peter at all. I would have bought it if Venom had found a way to make the alliance in Sandman's interests, which he could have done easily. Overall, it's a small quibble, and nothing that detracts from the overall plot. Overall, it's a good film, and vastly better to the second. Probably not as good as the first, but it's a good, solid superhero film that redeems the franchise for me. Oh, and SPS, I don't think you're alone. I don't think Venom is dead either. This falls under the "no body, no death" rule to me. Why would supervillain death be any different in film than in the books?
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Post by Venom65437 on May 6, 2007 1:38:14 GMT
We definitely need another 54 movies of Spidey vs. Venom!
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Post by sps1000 on May 6, 2007 2:40:32 GMT
Gray you said exactly what I'm thinking. Perhaps Venom becomes the new Goblin line for the next trilogy?
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Post by Terrordar on May 6, 2007 3:35:39 GMT
Problem, if you watch it closely, you see Brock's skeleton atomized by the explosion.
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Post by sps1000 on May 6, 2007 3:45:58 GMT
Eh. Trickery and illusion! Atomization doesn't count unless there is a visable body.
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Post by Terrordar on May 6, 2007 3:59:25 GMT
I saw the body. Its how the Goblin Grenades kill, its been that way since movie one.
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Post by hector on May 6, 2007 4:34:04 GMT
I saw the body. Its how the Goblin Grenades kill, its been that way since movie one. That's a great point. Of course any character can be revived no matter what, but that does show that Raimi's intention was for Brock to be killed. The movie was ok, if dissapointing. It wasn't a steaming pile of [Censored]like X-Men 3 or anything, but the first two are still vastly superior. Venom in particular was terrible. Spider-Man 2 still remains the unquestionable superior effort of the trilogy, with the first one not far behind.
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Post by Terrordar on May 6, 2007 4:39:00 GMT
Raimi wanted to make Brock lame, imo, as he honestly hates the character >.>
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Post by Venom65437 on May 6, 2007 7:38:12 GMT
VVVVVVVVVEEEEEEEEENNNNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMMMMMMM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by killerzzz on May 15, 2007 5:14:56 GMT
I like this one. I agree that Venom didn't have enough of a part. I was really looking forward to it. At first, I seriously expected them to end it with Peter Parker shredding the dark suit, it leaking down onto the other guy, then a battle between Good-Spidey and Sandman. Then, Spiderman 4 would be the big Venom story. Oh well, I liked it. My real problem was that there seemed to be too many lessons learned. You know? Too much forgiveness. ("I fogive you. I forgive you..." -- I'm not bitter!) I found the emo-Parker scenes hilarious! Especially at his apartment. "Give me another cookie. Uh-huh, gimme some milk. Got some with nuts?" "I... have the stuff to make them..." "Go make me some with nuts." When he pulled his hair down in the mirror, everyone in the theater was like. "Emo!" "Lookit that, he pulled down the emo-hair!" I didn't even know that many people knew what emo meant. ;D It was really well done. Believe it or not, when I first saw the commercials, I thought they casted Ernest as Sandman. He does look a bit like him, no? Sadly, the people I went with didn't like the movie. Oh, well. Not my fault they couldn't appreaciate it. Killerzzz
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Post by Venom65437 on May 15, 2007 6:04:48 GMT
The people you went with are retarded!
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Post by SilvaShado on May 19, 2007 19:33:07 GMT
I enjoyed the movie for the most part. I tried not to dissect it too much so that helped my enjoyment of it.
My only real note is that the guy who played Sandman looked out of place. In such a modern world, he looks like one of the 1950s comic book characters with his simple outfit and chiseled face. It wasn't a bad thing, just a little out of place. I actually liked his character the best of the villians, but that's also because they gave Venom such little screen time. I would have prefered less emo-Peter time and more Venom time. Emo-Peter just made me cringe.
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Post by killerzzz on Jun 10, 2007 3:31:59 GMT
Black 20's Spiderman 3 trailerMouahahaha! "Everyone needs burgers sometimes. Even Spiderman." ;D Killerzzz (Edit) P.S.: On account of this, the one for 300 and the one for PotC 3, I am aware that they are the stupidest things ever. K.
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