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Post by sps1000 on Oct 31, 2006 19:17:37 GMT
I figured I could make this a sort of weekly thing so every Tuesday I'll post two films and then we can discuss which one we feel is better and why. To start out this week the films will be:
Batman (Tim Burton) vs. Batman Begins
Which one do you feel is better? Why? Discuss.
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Post by Elliot Kane on Oct 31, 2006 19:27:44 GMT
Tough one... There's no doubt that Jack Nicholson steals the show in Batman, and the very noir style Burton brings to the project is great. That said, Michael Keaton is good as Bruce Wayne but only adequate as Batman. The interest is wholly in the villain and the look of the film. Batman Begins not only looks good, but plays the supporting cast in very well, making it truly a Batman film rather than a film about the bat-villains. Christian Bale is superb as both Bruce and Batman - being the only actor I've seen of whom that is true. Batman Begins lacks a truly memorable villain, but the rest more than make up for that. On balance, and despite that I like Batman a lot, I'd have to say Begins is the better film, though it's actually quite close. Good topic, SPS  |
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Post by sps1000 on Oct 31, 2006 19:51:11 GMT
Thanks E
Now onto my opinion. Yes Jack Nicholson steals the show in the original Batman but the original Batman was more style over substance than Batman Begins, and for that reason alone I prefer Batman Begins over the original Batman.
Now don't get me wrong Tim Burton is a great director but Batman isn't one of his best not when he's got such great films as The Nightmare Before Christmas, and Edward Scissorhands under his belt.
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Post by Galadriel on Oct 31, 2006 23:10:44 GMT
Definitly Batman Begins, I don't like Jack Nicholson that much anyway, he has something with his face, the eyebrows, anyway, he can only play the villain.
Good topic SPS
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Post by Gray Lensman on Nov 1, 2006 1:19:20 GMT
Overall, I lean towards Batman Begins, though I liked Batman.
Christian Bale has become the definitive Batman for me, honestly. Keaton did a decent job, but Bale just nailed the character on every level. So just on that alone, I have to give the nod to Batman Begins.
As for villains... as much as I really dislike the Joker as a character, he came across better on screen. I can't fault Nicholson's portrayal of the Joker in the slightest. Ra's al Ghul is my favorite Batman villain, but I have to reluctantly admit he wasn't well handled in Batman Begins. Mainly because Ra's was so rewritten for the film, and IMO, needlessly so. All in all, as on-screen adaptations go, I much prefer the Ra's al Ghul from the 90's Batman animated series.
The rest, I have to give to Batman Begins, though not by a lot. Good supporting cast, a good story that focused on Batman, and a script that remained generally true to the spirit of the comics. Burton did some good work, but I feel Nolan has a better grasp of what he's doing.
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Post by Venom65437 on Nov 1, 2006 6:19:43 GMT
I liked Batman better... cause I do like Jack and he did a great job!
While I agree that Bale did a great job, the fact that he fights no villian that I really care about, otherwise I'd probably say Batman Begins.
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Post by hector on Nov 1, 2006 6:32:37 GMT
The correct answer is Batman Begins. And yes, it's the only correct one. If someone says "Batman" they are wrong.
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Post by Venom65437 on Nov 1, 2006 7:22:02 GMT
Sure it's just SOMEONE'S OPINION, but I guess that means you're right.
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Post by janggut on Nov 1, 2006 7:40:02 GMT
i haven't watched Batman Begins yet so i can't make any comparison .... yet. ;D anyway, SPS, this is a nice idea - to compare films that share some kind of similarities. i have this idea to expand it a bit. let's say for now it's your call to put two films together & then ask for comparison. later on when u have enough responses, or after some time, u make the conclusion & say u agree with one of the posts the most so the person who post that one gets to continue the run - picking two films & make comparison & the cycles continues ..... . hope i make sense. |
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Post by hector on Nov 1, 2006 8:11:49 GMT
Sure it's just SOMEONE'S OPINION, but I guess that means you're right. Yeah, I am. Opinions can be right and wrong too.  |
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Post by hector on Nov 1, 2006 8:14:07 GMT
i hope i make sense. What the hell are you talking about? Just kidding. ;D It's a good idea. Different. |
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Post by Venom65437 on Nov 1, 2006 8:16:01 GMT
Sure it's just SOMEONE'S OPINION, but I guess that means you're right. Yeah, I am. Opinions can be right and wrong too. No they can't... it's just what you think... |
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Post by hector on Nov 1, 2006 8:17:07 GMT
No, it's true. And the Chicago Bulls? They Suck. |
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Post by Venom65437 on Nov 1, 2006 8:19:22 GMT
Yea, why don't you ask the Heat that after their 42 point ass kicking they got tonight?
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Post by hector on Nov 1, 2006 8:20:10 GMT
So if in my opinion the Bulls suck, then I'm right or wrong? ;D
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Post by Venom65437 on Nov 1, 2006 8:26:55 GMT
But whether a sports team sucks or not isn't an opinion. They are either good or they aren't! And right now we just [Censored] slapped the champs in their house, on their day to celebrate and we're unbeaten. Sounds good to me.
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Post by sps1000 on Nov 1, 2006 13:27:20 GMT
i haven't watched Batman Begins yet so i can't make any comparison .... yet. ;D anyway, SPS, this is a nice idea - to compare films that share some kind of similarities. i have this idea to expand it a bit. let's say for now it's your call to put two films together & then ask for comparison. later on when u have enough responses, or after some time, u make the conclusion & say u agree with one of the posts the most so the person who post that one gets to continue the run - picking two films & make comparison & the cycles continues ..... . hope i make sense. I like this idea. I don't know if I will implement it though because it's going to be tough to stay objective, and not seem like I'm playing favorites when picking who has the best opinion. |
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Post by Venom65437 on Nov 1, 2006 17:14:29 GMT
True, the person with the "best opinion" will probably sound a lot like yours....
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Post by sps1000 on Nov 1, 2006 19:52:49 GMT
True, the person with the "best opinion" will probably sound a lot like yours.... Venom hit it right on the nose. Though if it's any consolation I will take requests for two films you want to compare (PM me them so they can remain a suprise). I've got the next couple decided, but I may put em' off if someone gives me two that I think could make for interesting discussion. |
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Post by ss on Nov 2, 2006 1:51:45 GMT
Batman Begins.....obviously...self explanitory...why ask... ;D
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