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Post by ss on Sept 7, 2009 1:34:53 GMT
Also I view Christ as a role model , and this does not mean that I am without God , on the contrary , I am always with God. Role model for what....?? I submit that if you are always with God, by your own admission, it is not the God of the bible...so how is it that you pick and choose....(example)....how can you choose Christ, who is a BIBLICAL character and claims to be God, as a role model, but deny the actual God of the bible...in that the bible claims that it's "God" and "Christ" are one...?? Christ taught about eternity...extensively...you claim you don't believe in eternity..?? Again, just how is he your role model..and for what.
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Post by kilgoretrout on Sept 7, 2009 1:43:19 GMT
I view Christ as simply an avatar for higher humanity. I believe it is Paul who claims that Jesus is God.
Jesus , whether real or fictional , that one MAN does not matter. What matters is LOVE , Non Judgment , Kindness , Compassion. So as of current , the MAN with that message is Jesus, it's a human message. It matters not from which avatar that message comes.
As for eternity and the afterlife , more ego inspired trick to cope with death the inevitable.
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Post by kitty on Sept 8, 2009 14:40:49 GMT
Kil likes the symbolism, not the actual character.
It's like black people liking Obama - not for who he might be in his freetime but for what he stands for. (change)
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Post by janggut on Sept 10, 2009 8:31:14 GMT
reminds me of that film, Man From Earth. pretty good film.
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Post by ss on Sept 10, 2009 18:17:25 GMT
I view Christ as simply an avatar for higher humanity. I believe it is Paul who claims that Jesus is God. Jesus , whether real or fictional , that one MAN does not matter. What matters is LOVE , Non Judgment , Kindness , Compassion. So as of current , the MAN with that message is Jesus, it's a human message. It matters not from which avatar that message comes. As for eternity and the afterlife , more ego inspired trick to cope with death the inevitable. @ Jang...I haven't seen that movie...will look it up.. @ KT...yes, Paul did teach that but Jesus also agreed with those who called him by terms that meant "God", He acknowledged the governor's question "Art thou the King of the Jews?" in the affirmative, Pilate asked "what shall I do then with Jesus, which is called the Christ.?" (which to Jews meant their messiah-God) and Jesus said in John 10:30 "I and my Father are one." and also said "If you have seen me, you have seen the Father." The Jews also hated him when he called himself the "Son of Man" which they ALSO believe was a direct reference to God/Messiah. So Jesus did declare himself to be God...many other places also.. And again, I keep reading your statements like "higher humanity" My warning bells go off with "Gnostic" yelling somewhere in the background as "superman"...or someone just happens to have reached a "higher plane".?? I might be misreading that...or reading to much into it...
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Post by kilgoretrout on Sept 10, 2009 21:54:52 GMT
ss , perhaps you are reading too much into it. To me it's simple , Love , Compassion , Respect , Kindness etc is what will lead all people to a state of higher understanding closer to God. Gods creatures are a manifesting will , We are to see each other as an expression of Gods ultimate gift to us , which is LOVE.
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Post by ss on Sept 10, 2009 23:57:36 GMT
ss , perhaps you are reading too much into it. To me it's simple , Love , Compassion , Respect , Kindness etc is what will lead all people to a state of higher understanding closer to God. Gods creatures are a manifesting will , We are to see each other as an expression of Gods ultimate gift to us , which is LOVE. I can buy into that...
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Post by kilgoretrout on Sept 12, 2009 0:14:04 GMT
Well ss , thank God.
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