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Post by Flix on Jan 19, 2010 15:01:41 GMT
I don't remotely have the patience to complete such a tedious test. What do all those areas even mean? Talent? Compulsive? How come no one is skewed towards the Intellectual section?
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Post by Elliot Kane on Jan 19, 2010 15:35:57 GMT
Simply ask what the "you are very likely an aspie" people put into the beginning under the section that asked "do you think you are an aspie". It had three options: No, Selfdiagnosed and Professionally Diagnosed. I suppose that that had an influence. And someone that is Pro. Diagnosed, probably just got the obvious result and someone self-diagnosed could have been biased and (unconciously) "tried" to get a high score on the aspie side. I suspect you are right, Kit. *** Flix - at least a couple of us spiked on 'Intellectual/Talent' - but only on one side or other of the 'fence', as it were.
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Post by The Sonar Chicken on Jan 19, 2010 16:09:43 GMT
Btw, this is interesting stuff but what is the point, really? That's just like pulling out some DSM-IV manual and going like "hey I think I might match this and that" and then, trying to convince yourself that you're what... suffering from schizoid, schizophrenia and something else? ;D
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Post by Cat on Jan 19, 2010 16:20:25 GMT
Flix - if you do the test and download the PDF at the end it tells you what each thing means. And the Chicken is right. I got ''You are very likely an Aspie'' but I know I'm not. At least I'm pretty sure, like 99% sure, the stuff in the PDF said my peak in Talent could be a result of ''giftedness''. Which means it doesn't necessarily indicate you're an Aspie.
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Post by Ubereil on Jan 19, 2010 16:42:33 GMT
Do you still have that PDF, Cat? I looked at mine and all I saw was a bunch of tables so I didn't think it worth saving.
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Post by Elliot Kane on Jan 19, 2010 16:57:41 GMT
I just did it because I find all these tests fascinating. I don't tend to put great store by them, but I always like to see how... unusual... my mind appears to be when compared to everyone else's ;D
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Post by Cat on Jan 19, 2010 17:06:08 GMT
Do you still have that PDF, Cat? I looked at mine and all I saw was a bunch of tables so I didn't think it worth saving Yeah I do have the PDF, but I'm not sending it to you cos it has all my answers recorded ^^
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Post by Ubereil on Jan 19, 2010 17:36:45 GMT
Could you prehaps just copy-paste what the different things meant then?
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Post by fughawzi on Jan 20, 2010 0:24:00 GMT
I said no to the "Do you think you're an Aspie?" question. I have been told by many different doctors that I have a large amount of the symptoms but they wouldn't feel comfortable diagnosing me because I seem to do alright with people most of the time. So I get PDD - NOS most of the time. I don't know, most doctors are just [Censored]ing confused by me.
Information:
Aspie talent This group contains intellectually related Aspie traits. Typical traits are related to interests (e.g. having strong interests; hyper focusing; having periods of contemplation; collecting information; good long term memory related to interests; figuring out how things work; making connections between things; strong-willed; stubborn). Other traits are related to information processing (e.g. noticing details; finding patterns; unusual imagination; solving problems in unusual ways; unique ideas). Some people have special talents (e.g. numbers; language; computers; music). Diagnostic relation None, but a high score is related to giftedness.
Neurotypical talent This group contains neurotypical intellectual talents. Often these are defined in terms of Aspie disabilities. Typical traits seem to be adaptations to cooperative living (e.g. giving and remembering verbal instructions; learning from others; describing events; summarizing events; taking notes; keeping track of several conversations; learning things on demand; learning by imitation). Other traits include multitasking and attention (e.g. doing several things at the same time; rapidly shifting focus; getting back to things quickly), getting a quick picture of one’s environment (e.g. generalizing; getting the overall picture), remembering where things are, grasping abstract concepts and organizing daily life. Diagnostic relation No direct, but many diagnoses like ADD/ADHD seem to be related to a low score
Aspie compulsion This group contains obsessive and compulsive Aspie traits. Typical of this group is a preference for sameness (e.g. routines; lists; schedules; sitting on the same seat; going to the same shop; wearing the same clothes; eating the same food; always doing things in the same way). Related traits include getting frustrated when interrupted and a need to prepare oneself before doing new things. Some people have strong attachments to objects and like to collect and organize things and may need precision or symmetry. Diagnostic relation A high score is related to Obsessive Compulsive Disorder (OCD).
Neurotypical compulsion This group contains socially related compulsive traits. Key traits are to enjoy social interaction (e.g. meeting people; involving others; games; crowds; large social networks; hosting events; being a leader; gossip; cheering). Other traits are related to social conformity (e.g. having views typical of peer group; preferring to socialize with others of the same age and gender; interest for fashions; wearing jewellery; wearing makeup; taking pride in ones appearance, style, image and identity; status seeking; climbing hierarchies). Diagnostic relation None.
Aspie social This group contain Aspie social traits. Important traits are a highly variable activity level with higher than normal motivation threshold. Other traits include atypical relationship & courtship preferences (partner obsessions; not giving up on relationships; preference for friends of the opposite gender) and sexual preferences. Unusual eating and sleeping patterns as well as having a hard time with authorities and social hierarchy are other traits. Diagnostic relation A high score is related to ADD/ADHD, Bipolar and ODD.
Neurotypical social This group contains neurotypical social traits. The absence of the traits is often described as a dysfunction. Key traits are adaptations for living in changing social groups (e.g. smalltalk; social chitchat; shaking hands; saying ‘hi’, ‘thank you’ and ‘sorry’). Related traits are adaptations for socializing with strangers (e.g. being comfortable with strangers; enjoying talking face-to-face with strangers; maintaining large social networks; easy to get to know; talking in public; enjoying uninvited guests). Other traits are related to friendships and relationships and expressing feelings in typical ways (e.g. making and maintaining friendships and relationships; looking at people you talk to; enjoying hugs and touch; being emotionally close to others; describing and talking about feelings) and cooperation with others (e.g. using others expertise; working while being observed). Diagnostic relation A low score is related to Social Phobia.
Aspie communication This group contains communication related Aspie traits. Key traits in this group are related to atypical nonverbal communication (e.g. odd facial expressions; odd posture; odd prosody; being accused of staring; using unusual sounds in conversations; blinking or rolling eyes; clenching fists; grinding teeth; thrusting tongue; blushing). Related traits are stims (e.g. wringing hands; rubbing hands; twirling fingers; rocking; tapping eyes; pressing eyes; fiddling with things; pacing; flapping hands; biting self or others; chewing on things; picking scabs; peeling skin flakes; examining hair of others; singing). Tics are also here and are often confused with stims (e.g. stuttering; sniffing; snorting; coughing; echolalia; echopraxia). Other traits include general communication differences (e.g. not verbalizing thoughts; talking softly or loudly; turning words around; talking to oneself; odd pronunciation; not separating ‘I’, ‘we’ and ‘you’). Some people also prefer to look a lot at people they like and not at all at people they dislike. Diagnostic relation A high score is sometimes related to Tourette, but the primary relation is with stimming and unusual communication.
Neurotypical communication This group contains typical nonverbal communication traits. A key trait is the ability to interpret and show typical nonverbal communication (e.g. facial expressions; body language; courtship; timing; reciprocity; turn-taking; prosody). The absence of these abilities lead to secondary problems (e.g. unaware of how to behave; unaware of boundaries; being misunderstood; missing hidden agendas; being unaware of others intentions; misinterpreting figures of speech, idioms and allegories; literal interpretation; not knowing when to apologize; saying inappropriate things; seemingly poor empathy). Diagnostic relation A low score is related to Autism Spectrum Conditions (ASC)
Aspie hunting This group contains passive hunting traits. One part of the traits is related to preferred habitats (e.g. slowly flowing water; caves; woods; liking mist or fog). Another part seems to be close-contact hunting traits (e.g. jumping over things; climbing; chasing animals; biting; enjoying spinning in circles; strong grip; strong hands; physical endurance; enjoying rodeo riders). Some other traits are related to sneaking (e.g. sneaking through the woods; sneaking up on animals; walking on toes) and general hunting tactics (e.g. mimicking animal sounds; digging; throwing small things; building traps; fascination for fire; sniffing) Diagnostic relation None.
Neurotypical hunting The traits in this group are related to cooperative hunting. These traits are often described in terms of dysfunctions. Typical traits are recollections of environmental information (e.g. positions of things; scores in games; order of words, letters and digits; map reading) and passing on information to others (e.g. passing on messages; knowing left from right; dates and times of events; remembering appointments and events; reading clocks and calendars; carrying over information between contexts). Other traits are related to trading and exchange with others (e.g. calculating change from a purchase; knowing what to bring to appointments; remembering sequences of past events; remembering formulas; filling out forms). Diagnostic relation A low score is related to Dyslexia and Dyscalculia.
Aspie perception This group contains perception-related Aspie traits. These traits commonly become disabilities, but their core seems to be more sensitive senses (e.g. touch; sound; tactile; smell; taste; light and glare; humidity; changes in air pressure; wind; heat; electromagnetic fields) or less sensitive senses (e.g. pain). Related to this are instinctual reactions to sensory information (e.g. being distracted by sounds; being afraid of motor-bikes; being afraid of floods or fast running streams; disliking stomping). Other traits are difficulty filtering out speech from background noise and using peripheral vision. Diagnostic relation No direct, but Autistics often have differences in perception.
Neurotypical perception This group contains neurotypical motor abilities and perception traits. The absence of these traits is often referred to as clumsiness. A key trait is the ability to interpret spatial information (e.g. judging distance, speed and acceleration; keeping track of positions of objects; predicting motion; concept of time; optimal pressure to apply). The absence of these skills leads to secondary problems (e.g. poor fine and gross motor skills; poor body awareness; poor body control; problems with ball sports; poor hand-eye coordination; poor balance; poor handwriting; dropping things). Diagnostic relation A low score is related to Dyspraxia.
Environment This group contains traits that seem to be of environmental origin. Typical traits are related to stress and overload (e.g. shutting down; having a meltdown) and consequences of not fitting in (e.g. depression; being bullied; being taken advantage of; low self-esteem; suicidal thoughts; harming oneself; mood swings). Diagnostic relation A high score is related to many psychiatric diagnoses and is sometimes required in order to get a diagnosis.
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Post by fughawzi on Jan 20, 2010 0:28:34 GMT
But stuff like the fact that the title is missing an 'e' is driving me up a wall.
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Post by kilgoretrout on Jan 21, 2010 19:45:34 GMT
Your Aspie score: 99 of 200 Your neurotypical (non-autistic) score: 109 of 200 You seem to have both Aspie and neurotypical traits
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Post by kilgoretrout on Jan 22, 2010 1:42:04 GMT
Am I the only one so far wit both possible aspects?
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Post by Elliot Kane on Jan 22, 2010 1:55:54 GMT
I believe you are Kilgore, yes. My own scores were seriously pro-Neuro, as you can tell from the chart. Everyone else seems to favour one side or the other - except you...
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Post by Hand-E-Food on Jan 22, 2010 2:02:16 GMT
Seems that way, assuming you can take this test seriously.
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Post by Dark Phoenix Rising on Jan 22, 2010 9:21:40 GMT
The test itself has been praised by professionals as being a good indicator, however they also say that it isn't a professional diagnosis by any stretch of the imagination.
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Post by Elliot Kane on Jan 22, 2010 13:30:58 GMT
In other words it's as decent a stab in the dark as any. And more importantly from our POV - like most of these types of tests - it's fun and produces pretty charts! ;D
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Post by Dark Phoenix Rising on Jan 22, 2010 13:49:36 GMT
Erm, more like the things that get indicated could be indictive of aspergers or they could be indictive of something else that has similar results in the areas that you had problems with - such as dispraxia.
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Post by Elliot Kane on Jan 22, 2010 17:15:18 GMT
Or a lack of education that means you have trouble with the way some questions are worded...
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Post by kilgoretrout on Jan 22, 2010 22:53:14 GMT
Or a lack of education that means you have trouble with the way some questions are worded... I will say , I caught all the sly rewording of the same questions , my chart was heavy on perception , talent , not so much on social , I saved the pic , still can't figure out how to post a pic. I guess I'm not surprised to be aspects of both considering I think much of what we consider as our "choices" are really false paradigms and forced perspectives with little actual "freedom" involved, only perhaps resignation to settle. I think my results bare that out...
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Post by Dark Phoenix Rising on Jan 23, 2010 11:09:03 GMT
erm, I don't think some of the sly rewording is so sly.
After all, to some people the different wording can make the question mean something slightly different, which to someone that has problems in an area can mean the difference between having an issue and not having it.
e.g. When you go to a crowded place do you feel stressed. or When you find yourself in a crowded place do you feel stressed.
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