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Post by Galadriel on Jun 24, 2007 11:46:45 GMT
This has been a fascinating item to talk about with many people. Some believe that they are made from aliens, others think it's god's hand in this. As for me, I don't believe in supernatural powers, but the people who made it are true artists. I like the geometric circles, I used to draw them as well but then on paper with my diagram. ;D
Here's some info I found on Wiki: "Crop circle is a term used to describe geometrical formations of flattened crops — primarily wheat, barley, canola, rye, corn, linseed and soy — that sometimes appear on different locations around the world.
The phenomenon itself was observed in its current form after notable appearances in England in the late 1970's. Cereologists, or crop circle enthusiasts, soon offered various paranormal and naturalistic explanations for the phenomenon. In 1991, two men named Doug Bower and Dave Chorley revealed that they had been making crop circles in England since 1976 using planks, rope, hats, and wire as their only tools. Circlemakers.org, a UK-based arts collective founded by John Lundberg have been creating complex crop circles since the early 1990's."
(I have troubles with my photobucket, so if the images I post here need to be uploaded in PB, please can some one else do that for me?)
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Post by killerzzz on Jun 25, 2007 0:52:15 GMT
I haven't seen neat ones like that before. I agree with you, Kylia, that they are just really cool works of art. I like what someone once said about aliens visiting Earth. Someone said something on the lines of: "Aliens are watching us." And his responce was: "... Why?" Why would they wan't to watch us? Don't they have better things to do? Still, crop circles are really interesting. Who knows, maybe they're signs after all. Killerzzz
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Post by Galadriel on Jun 25, 2007 23:00:57 GMT
I know that if there are aliens out there, they have much better things to do then make crop circles to keep us petty humans busy ;D Here are some more circles to admire
This one is a pretty complicated but gorgious circle
Scorpion or dragonfly, neat!
I have found some info on crop circles, wich should prove that it's made by aliens or extra terrestrials.
Characteristics of a crop circle In authentic crop circles, the flattened plants are largely undamaged (until visitors arrive!) and tend to continue growing, whereas in hoaxed circles the stalks are generally broken, crushed and often killed. The stalks of flattened vegetation in genuine circles are bent at angles of up to 90 degrees, and are often laid in a strikingly intricate and beautifully woven fashion.
Circular components of a design are usually swirled clockwise or anticlockwise from a centre point outwards. But instead of the swirl going round and round out from the centre in a tight spiral, as tends to be the case in man-made formations, it often flows widely outwards, sometimes in a distinct S-shape. Spirals are often made of thin strips, not 3-ft-wide swaths, as when planks or garden rollers are used. Where different flows merge, the plants tend to be plaited over and under, suggesting that all the plants have collapsed in opposing directions simultaneously.
Anomalous effects
There are numerous reports of electronic and mechanical equipment breaking down in crop circles. Cameras frequently malfunction, and even when they do work, the results may be overexposed, streaked, smeared, or entirely black. Video equipment is also very vulnerable, and often picks up severe interference. Battery draining is quite common, and even fresh power packs can die. Cell phones often fail to operate within a formation but sometimes work perfectly again if taken outside it.
A combine harvester short-circuited as it crossed the Milk Hill Koch fractal (fig. 3.12).
At Warminster, a tractor’s entire electrical system failed the moment it crossed a circle’s perimeter, but sprang back to life as it was towed out of the circle. In another incident, a tractor was seized by ‘static discharges which shone like sparks over the body of the vehicle’. The next day, a circle appeared at the same spot in the field. Farmers have also reported the deflating of perfectly sound, heavy-duty tyres inside crop circles.
The morning after the appearance of the ‘Beltane wheel’ (fig. 9.2), the BBC was conducting a radio interview inside the glyph but the tape speeded up so much that it stopped. When the interview was continued 50 yards outside the formation, the equipment worked normally again. The experiment was then repeated inside the formation, but the technical problems returned. Later in the day a crew from ITV Bristol Television arrived, but their sound system later turned out to have been so disrupted that most of the recording was unable to be broadcast that evening.
Magnetic compasses frequently behave erratically both inside crop formations and when flying directly over them. Witnesses sometimes report TV, cell phone, smoke alarm and security device interference or malfunctions during nights when a crop circle forms nearby. The night before the appearance of the 1991 Barbury Castle tetrahedron (fig. 3.6) , residents in the nearby village of Broughton experienced a power blackout and many residents reported balls of coloured light flying above the field where the formation later manifested, along with a low rumbling noise.
Watches and clocks may run fast or slow in crop circles. Some writers see this as evidence that ‘time itself’ has slowed down or speeded up, and have linked crop circles to ‘time warps’ and ‘space warps’! Certain photographic distortions have been attributed to the same alleged causes. It’s quite conceivable that anomalous energies and atmospheric conditions can affect the behaviour of watches, clocks, cameras and also light. But warped notions such as ‘bent’ space and time are simply mathematical abstractions and explain nothing. There is also a case of a pendulum being pulled 15 to 20 degrees off the vertical in the centre of a crop formation by some unknown force.
The effects of crop circles on humans vary widely. Many people experience heightened awareness, elation, and a sense of peace and wellbeing inside crop formations, and there are also many reports of healing. But in certain formations some people experience nausea, headaches, dizziness, disorientation, abnormal menopausal bleeding, lack of mental clarity, and excessive fatigue. However, both positive and negative effects have also been experienced in man-made formations. Distinguishing subjective, psychosomatic factors from possible objective factors (ranging from pesticide residues to unusual energies) is no easy matter.
Unlike humans, animals are not very susceptible to suggestion, but there are many accounts of them behaving strangely in or near crop formations. Dogs sometimes refuse to enter crop circles, others become either cowed and nervous or uncontrollable inside them, and some become sick afterwards. Other dogs show no adverse effects at all. Before the manifestation of a nearby crop circle, dogs have been known to bark incessantly in the early morning hours, and in one case a sheepdog tried to bite a hole through a thick wooden door.
Sheep sometimes try and move as far away as possible from a field where a crop formation later appears. Horses may refuse to cross the perimeter of crop circles, or become nervous in their vicinity. Flocks of geese have been observed to break formation directly over crop circles, and deer have been seen avoiding crop circles blocking game trails. Birds, too, tend to stay away from genuine crop circles, even though the downed plants offer easy access to seeds.
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Post by killerzzz on Jun 26, 2007 3:43:17 GMT
You really did your research, Kylia. ;D I've also heard that in genuine crop circles, the plants (and ground?) are slightly effected at the molecular level. That is, some change happens with the electrons, or something. This might also have something to with the reaction of machenery and animals within the circles. Whatever or whoever is making these "genuine" circles... they must have a good amount of time and skill on their hands to pull all this off. Killerzzz
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Post by Galadriel on Jun 26, 2007 12:42:37 GMT
It's just so interesting, I don't believe in aliens doing that, but the question remains, who did? When you look at the close up pictures of the crops being flattened, they are not harmed at all, but kinda folded and they are not broken. Wich cannot be done when a machine ride over the crops. A discoloured and stretched node with a 90-degree bend
Marked bending at the base of oil-seed rape plants.
I have found some more funny ones ;D Does this one look familiar? ;D
alien crop circle
Ghandi
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Post by ss on Jun 27, 2007 0:30:11 GMT
You really did your research, Kylia. ;D I've also heard that in genuine crop circles, the plants (and ground?) are slightly effected at the molecular level. That is, some change happens with the electrons, or something. This might also have something to with the reaction of machenery and animals within the circles. Whatever or whoever is making these "genuine" circles... they must have a good amount of time and skill on their hands to pull all this off. Killerzzz Skill yes, but time...?? Some of them, and we are talking BIG ones, have been finished from dark to daylight..?? No witnesses, no evidence left behind.... Being as I don't believe in aliens, ....awwwwh I won't go there...coulda been the little people....
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Post by killerzzz on Jun 27, 2007 3:14:50 GMT
You really did your research, Kylia. ;D I've also heard that in genuine crop circles, the plants (and ground?) are slightly effected at the molecular level. That is, some change happens with the electrons, or something. This might also have something to with the reaction of machenery and animals within the circles. Whatever or whoever is making these "genuine" circles... they must have a good amount of time and skill on their hands to pull all this off. Killerzzz Skill yes, but time...?? Some of them, and we are talking BIG ones, have been finished from dark to daylight..?? No witnesses, no evidence left behind.... Being as I don't believe in aliens, ....awwwwh I won't go there...coulda been the little people.... How about skill and patience then? ;D Or, heck, they're probably just having fun the whole time, laughing at how much we're going to ponder over them. I know I would. Killerzzz
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Post by Galadriel on Jun 27, 2007 12:08:38 GMT
As ss said, those crop circles have been made over one night, while it would take ten men 7 to 11 nights to finish the same circle. Some circles that that gigantic that you ahve to believe it's made by superpowers.
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Post by ss on Jun 27, 2007 16:05:46 GMT
I agree Kylia....we may not agree on just who did it, but reason, (IMHO) says the same thing as you... It could be the wee people using magic - as some would think.. or some other source... as you know me, I believe it to be (those that cannot be explained within the human realm) the work of demons ...ie...fallen angels...that are trying to undermine or mislead the human race away from God...(and doing a bang up job of it I might add).. ;D Of course I can not prove such a thing...especially to those that don't believe that fallen angels even EXIST....(that would make them acknowledge the existence of God... ) But...there has to be SOME explanation for them, because we have them....it would be like saying that dinasours didn't exist even while we are digging up their bones...
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Post by Galadriel on Jun 29, 2007 8:35:32 GMT
Complex design of crescents based on eight-fold geometry, Ogbourne St. George, Wiltshire Downs, 15 June 2003. As with the West Overton glyph, the plants were unusually laid: in the central circle, a central spiral motion rotated outwards in eight movements, with stems barely touching the ground; in between, the remaining plants appeared to have been gently pushed approximately 20 degrees from the vertical. It was as if someone had simply brushed their hand lightly over the young wheat. As the plants recovered, they rose in alternate segments along different nodes, producing a ripple effect that seems to be unhoaxable.
Pentagram variation, Dadford, Buckinghamshire, 4 July 1998
Ninefold formation with six-crescent vortex, Cherhill, Wiltshire, 18 July 1999.
Flower with sixth petal not yet unfolded, Golden Ball Hill, Wiltshire, 14 July 2000.
Amazing huh?
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Post by LaFille on Jun 30, 2007 3:14:17 GMT
I don't know who made these and for what purposes, but these look great. The one of the third picture in particular draws me. That topic also reminded me of the Nazca lines...
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Post by Galadriel on Jun 30, 2007 10:08:21 GMT
I don't know who made these and for what purposes, but these look great. The one of the third picture in particular draws me. That topic also reminded me of the Nazca lines... Very interesting and indeed very nice as well. I wonder how the Peruvian people could make them
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Post by LaFille on Jul 1, 2007 3:09:27 GMT
And theirs had a greater scale and lifespan... It would quite be to give complexes to the crop-circle-makers, there. ;D Wonder how come there was no trend to imitate such creations, though....
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