The New 7 Wonders

[winlok]

Win, I'm sure you're not the only one that would keep these in your vote. They are great icons of culture and these people, so I guess votes can be based on that criteria as well. For my part, I really went on the values of the elements in themselves rather than the importance of the people that built it, their portrayal, but that's just me.

Don't worry Fille, I'm keping that in mind.

Canada had a vote once, about who was the greatest Canadian. Now a lot of the names mentioned were shocking. Like Don Cherry or Wayne Gretzky for example. They were good in their own right, but they shouldn't even been listed as an option. I think Alexander Graham Bell won out, and that was a good thing, but I think it was based on Bells popularity, that just couldn't be ignored. He ended up inventing the telephone which is enjoyed by all people not just Canadian's. Which is a good thing.

What about the man who invented a polio vacine. I can;t remember his name at the moment. He was not on the list, and yet people outside of Canada were effected.

[ss]

Jonas Salk .... invented the polio vaccine..

[winlok]

ss said:

Jonas Salk .... invented the polio vaccine..

You are right as soon as I saw the name, I knew I was wrong. Now I'm in a bind, I have to hunt down who I was thinking of. Thanks ss!

[winlok]

winlok said:

ss said:

Jonas Salk .... invented the polio vaccine..

You are right as soon as I saw the name, I knew I was wrong. Now I'm in a bind, I have to hunt down who I was thinking of. Thanks ss!

Fredrick Banting is who I was thinking of, and it was insulin.

[LaFille]

winlok said:

Canada had a vote once, about who was the greatest Canadian. Now a lot of the names mentioned were shocking. Like Don Cherry or Wayne Gretzky for example. They were good in their own right, but they shouldn't even been listed as an option. I think Alexander Graham Bell won out, and that was a good thing, but I think it was based on Bells popularity, that just couldn't be ignored. He ended up inventing the telephone which is enjoyed by all people not just Canadian's. Which is a good thing.

What about the man who invented a polio vacine. I can;t remember his name at the moment. He was not on the list, and yet people outside of Canada were effected.

Oooh, they had such vote... must have been before I was born or I'd have eclipsed them all... Muahahaha!! ;D

But I see your point, Win, and I agree. Putting Wayne Gretzky is that list feels about like putting the CN tower or San Francisco bridge in the 77 candidates list, to me. But maybe there are architecture innovations in these that I don't understand. I know that the Opera House in Sydney, Australia was one, even if I don't remember exactly why in addition to be something to do with abstract design; the Eiffel tower could maybe be one as well, though I'd guess to a lesser extent. The Statue of Liberty and the Christ Redeemer, I have some doubts, though. But then again, I know quite nothing in building structures and so.

[winlok]

lafille said:

winlok said:

Canada had a vote once, about who was the greatest Canadian. Now a lot of the names mentioned were shocking. Like Don Cherry or Wayne Gretzky for example. They were good in their own right, but they shouldn't even been listed as an option. I think Alexander Graham Bell won out, and that was a good thing, but I think it was based on Bells popularity, that just couldn't be ignored. He ended up inventing the telephone which is enjoyed by all people not just Canadian's. Which is a good thing.

What about the man who invented a polio vacine. I can;t remember his name at the moment. He was not on the list, and yet people outside of Canada were effected.

Oooh, they had such vote... must have been before I was born or I'd have eclipsed them all... Muahahaha!! ;D

But I see your point, Win, and I agree. Putting Wayne Gretzky is that list feels about like putting the CN tower or San Francisco bridge in the 77 candidates list, to me. But maybe there are architecture innovations in these that I don't understand. I know that the Opera House in Sydney, Australia was one, even if I don't remember exactly why in addition to be something to do with abstract design; the Eiffel tower could maybe be one as well, though I'd guess to a lesser extent. The Statue of Liberty and the Christ Redeemer, I have some doubts, though. But then again, I know quite nothing in building structures and so.

We'll keep it between us Fille, but the vote was a couple years ago. Well before your time right?

[LaFille]

What!? That must be not to curse everyone with a complex of inferiority, then... ;D

[Shan]

Fille, do you happen to have pictures of the 7 Ancient Wonders of the World?

I think it would be cool if we could find pics of them to post those also. You love me don't you? ;D

[LaFille]

Yeah, adding the 7 wonders of the ancient world is a good idea. Will be interesting to compare with the 21 here. I'll get at it. ;D

I don't know how difficult it will be to find pics of them, since most were destructed several centuries ago. There must be some illustrations somewhere for sure though.

[LaFille]

Last call... In less than 6 days, the votes will end and
the New7Wonders of the World will be announced on07.07.07 in Lisbon, Portugal .

So, people, set on your choices already, now? ;D

[Galadriel]

I see that Shan liked to have the 7 ancient wonders of the world posted here.
Here is a compilation of them all.

The Seven Wonders of the Ancient World (from left to right, top to bottom): Great Pyramid of Giza, Hanging Gardens of Babylon, Temple of Artemis, Statue of Zeus at Olympia, Mausoleum of Maussollos, Colossus of Rhodes and the Lighthouse of Alexandria as depicted by 16th-century Dutch artist Maarten van Heemskerck.

[LaFille]

Cool, thanks Gal to palliate to my sluggishness; and with good timing. ;D

[Galadriel]

lafille said:

Cool, thanks Gal to palliate to my sluggishness; and with good timing. ;D

You're quite welcome, mylady ;D

[LaFille]

The pyramids of Giza were retired from the list of candidates given that they were already a 7 wonder of the ancient world. (Debatable decision, since the votes had begun before that... ) Anyway, the New 7 Wonders were elected and the results were displayed yesterday; so the elected sites are:

Chichén Itzá, Mexico
Christ Redeemer, Brazil
The Great Wall, China
Machu Picchu, Peru
Petra, Jordan
The Roman Colloseum, Italy
The Taj Mahal, India

Choices I'm ok with, for my part, except for the Christ Redeemer and maybe the Colloseum. For these two, I would have preferred Angkor, Stonehenge, the Easter Island, the Alhambra, the Acropolis, Neuschwanstein Castle or the Hagia Sophia; Angkor in particular I'm disappointed not to find in.

What do you think?

[Elliot Kane]

Looks like a list carefully chosen not to offend rather than something voted for, IMO.

I'd say the statue of Christ The Redeemer was a bit prosaic to be included. Something like the Sistine Chapel or St Paul's Cathedral has far greater claim. I'd definitely agree that Angkor and Easter Island should be there.

I think you summed it up very well by saying it's 'OK' Fille. That's the highest I'd put it at, too.

[Terrordar]

I'm shocked that 3 of the 7 are in South America/Central America.

Though I have to say, I am glad that the Roman Colosseum was picked as one. Thats awesome (I voted for that one , didn't vote for another one on the list save the Great Wall )

[Gray Lensman]

Count me in the "eh" category as well.

I'm cool with the Great Wall, and most of the other choices are acceptable. But then there's Christ the Redeemer, which doesn't work so well for me. As noted, there are quite a few places that deserve to be there more than the Redeemer.

I don't dislike it as such... I just find it quite underwhelming.

[Elliot Kane]

The more I think about the Pyramids being excluded, the sillier I think that decision was, too.

It's not like any of the modern Wonders are all that, well, modern, really, is it? Some of them are roughly contemporary with the pyramids, unless my dates are wildly off (Which they could easily be, I admit).

[Gray Lensman]

I kind of like the fact that some of these places are ancient, honestly.

To me, what the age of these structures shows is that they stand the test of time, and were built well enough to last thousands of years. So on that basis, I don't mind the new Wonders being rather old.

That said... yeah, I'd have preferred the Pyramids be on the list too. Or the Sphinx. It doesn't quite seem as an impressive list to me without either of those....

[Elliot Kane]

You just don't get more famous in terms of ancient landmarks. The 7 Wonders were held to be the greatest architectural achievements known to the people of that time, whatever their age. It would be nice if the new list was similar, but I don't get that impression from it.