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Post by Shan on Sept 23, 2007 14:31:23 GMT
Ooooooo, she's gonna wait. That means I can post more spoilers for her to read. ;D *Grabs book and starts looking* ;D Seriously I don't blame you, Gal. I'd do the same thing. Hope the Dutch translation comes out soon.
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Post by Galadriel on Sept 24, 2007 9:48:39 GMT
I think that will be at the end of October (Halloween, digit?) . I do hope that the cover looks better then the english version though, I know you can't judge a book by the cover (litterally speaking then) but it didn't appeal to me at all If the cover is drawn by the same artist of the other books I have, then it will be cool.
And, btw, feel free to post more spoilers, I don't want to 'spoil' your fun ;D
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Post by tragic on Sept 24, 2007 21:25:30 GMT
I am dissapointed with Snape's fate....althougth the truth about Snape was my favourite chapter.
I am also a bit surprised at the last chapter.....It seems she has finally ended it.
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Post by grape on Sept 27, 2007 3:11:43 GMT
@ Gal 2nd last post:
wrong!
it is always better to read a piece of literature in the language it was written in originally!
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Post by Galadriel on Sept 27, 2007 12:53:21 GMT
@ Gal 2nd last post: wrong! it is always better to read a piece of literature in the language it was written in originally! I know, and I don't want to say otherwise, but my hubby can't read english that well to understand the book. If I ever have enough money, I will buy all the books of HP in English, but only if the covers look nice ;D
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Post by Winterfox on Sept 30, 2007 14:43:29 GMT
I thought it was a massive disappointment. I'd never taken the HP series for sophisticated literature or anything more than it really is--light entertainment--but the last two books fail to even entertain. Rowling really can't write romance to save her life, there're plot holes after plot holes, the entire "find horcruxes" quest is a tedious cycle (angst and pointless bickering, an attempt to do something useful only to be captured or almost killed by Voldemort, escape by a deus ex machina) and I found the epilogue to Deathly Hallows painfully saccharine and dull.
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Post by Galadriel on Oct 2, 2007 16:37:16 GMT
I thought it was a massive disappointment. I'd never taken the HP series for sophisticated literature or anything more than it really is--light entertainment--but the last two books fail to even entertain. Rowling really can't write romance to save her life, there're plot holes after plot holes, the entire "find horcruxes" quest is a tedious cycle (angst and pointless bickering, an attempt to do something useful only to be captured or almost killed by Voldemort, escape by a deus ex machina) and I found the epilogue to Deathly Hallows painfully saccharine and dull. Wow, that was an honest opinion lol
Whatever it may be, I'm still a fan and I read many books to compair
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Post by Winterfox on Oct 3, 2007 18:36:15 GMT
Whatever it may be, I'm still a fan and I read many books to compair [/color][/quote] To compare how?
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Post by Galadriel on Oct 3, 2007 23:09:43 GMT
Whatever it may be, I'm still a fan and I read many books to compair [/color][/quote] To compare how? [/quote] Well, I don't agree with you that HP books sucks, they are exciting to read, there is a bit of everyithing in it and you can loose yourself in the book. Some of the greatest writers have such boring books, that I put them away after reading the first 100 pages.
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Post by Winterfox on Oct 4, 2007 10:48:50 GMT
Oh, I see.
Well, obviously you disagree. Me, I've read plenty of books that are more exciting and better-written; it's not as if I'm speaking from the perspective of a stuffy, elitist academic who reads only canonical literature. My problem with Harry Potter is that Rowling isn't able to break out of the formula she's set for herself, tries to write romances but woefully fails to make it interesting or three-dimensional, tries to make the books darker but falls flat on her face because ultimately it's still all very tame. The series does nothing new or original, either. It takes all the fantasy stereotypes and regurgitates most of them whole from the orphaned chosen one to Wise Old Mentor who's eccentric to the one-dimensional cliched Dark Lord of Doom and Despair. I can't name anything in the series that hasn't been done before, and done better. Neil Gaiman did the whole "normal boy finds out he has magic and is shown many magical things" thing before and did it with a lot more skill.
Toward the end, the books commit one of the worst thing a book can do: it stops making me care. When Dumbledore died, I rolled my eyes because, face it, he's always been an idiot. When you hear that this or that character dies in DH, I couldn't make myself give a flying damn. Hedwig bites the dust? Sorry, she's a personality-void flying mailbox--am I supposed to care? Oh, look, one of the twins dies and I can't even recall which, because both are interchangeable and have no such thing as a distinct personality. Watch Harry bicker with his friends! Yaaawn. See the romantic tension in Half-blood Prince! What? I'm supposed to care about all this petty teenage gibbering and all this infantile "chest monster"? Shut the hell up and go do something interesting. And grow up, you little brats.
It's a pity, because the first four books at least have some entertainment value.
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Post by Galadriel on Oct 5, 2007 14:14:31 GMT
It's ok if you don't like the books, but there is no reason to use bad language to the people who do like the books. There is soo much more in life then fighting over a couple of books. Each to his own, goes for everything. At least, if you ask me
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Post by Shan on Oct 6, 2007 3:42:34 GMT
It's ok if you don't like the books, but there is no reason to use bad language to the people who do like the books. There is soo much more in life then fighting over a couple of books. Each to his own, goes for everything. At least, if you ask me i agree with gal on this one.
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Post by Winterfox on Oct 6, 2007 4:15:05 GMT
It's ok if you don't like the books, but there is no reason to use bad language to the people who do like the books. Directing invectives at the book and directing them at people who like the book are not the same thing. I would've thought the difference was obvious. Or is there anything in my post you can pinpoint as being an attack against anything but fictional characters and Rowling's ability as a writer?
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Post by Lews on Oct 6, 2007 5:33:29 GMT
Just because it's not the Great Gatsby doesn't mean you can't enjoy it.
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Post by Winterfox on Oct 6, 2007 10:55:21 GMT
Rofl. Your assumption that I shred Harry Potter because it's not like canonical literature is both cute and sad at the same time. And amusing.
Just because it's popular doesn't mean it is good or that everyone has to enjoy it -- and nor is light, undemanding fiction beyond criticism. :)
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Post by Galadriel on Oct 6, 2007 13:57:44 GMT
I think it's best to close this converstation now, we all know you don't like the books, but we like them period.
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Post by Winterfox on Oct 6, 2007 14:23:27 GMT
I'm sorry, I didn't notice the hidden "please don't post any criticism, this book's fans have extremely delicate sensibilities" small print in the thread title. God forbid there being anything resembling a real discussion.
Does criticism of something you like threaten you or something?
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Post by Shan on Oct 6, 2007 14:56:10 GMT
no, your criticism is not a threat to us, but enough is enough.
we respect the fact that you do not like the way the books were written. you have made that very clear. now please show the ones of us who enjoyed the books the same respect and not try to start an arguement over everything we say about them. and yes that is what you are trying to do.
i will not allow this to turn into an argument thread.
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Post by Winterfox on Oct 6, 2007 15:36:22 GMT
Define "starting an argument." Also, what's wrong with debate? Not that there's been any, mind you -- there's been no attempt to refute my criticism of the books or anything.
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Post by Shan on Oct 7, 2007 2:03:33 GMT
there is nothing wrong with debate if all people are in agreement to do so, it is done in the proper place and it is done with the rules clearly defined and understood by all parties.
what do i mean when i say you are trying to start an argument, if you aren't then why are you criticizing everything that is said and being sarcastic in your remarks? you know exactly what you are doing. you are just hoping someone will bite and take you on. that is not going to happen here.
i ask that you stop trying to antagonize the posters of this thread. if you would like to continue to post your dislikes of the harry potter books and of rowling's writing, please start a separate thread.
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