Assasination attempt on Danish member of governmen

[peterh]

This is F***** up!

today, or actually last night at around 3 am the house of Rikke Hvilshøj, Danish minister of mmigration, was set on fire in what can only be described as an assasination attempt. The reason for this is "the racist Danish immigration policy".

The group behind the terror send out an email to the public stating that action was needed and they tok it upon themselves. No word on wether this is a one time deal or just a warning of things to follow.

The extreme left wing group calls themselves "aktionsgruppen grænseløse Beate" which is loosely translated to "Group Beate for free borders". No one knows who they are, but luckily the police has found the internet cafe where they send the email and strangely the guy managing the cafe has a suddens lapse of memory of whom visited the cafe at 3 am in the morning even though there were only 12 costumers.



Anyway, that's the story and I'm outraged and shocked. What's almost as bad is I know some people who'll applaud this sort of stuff...have you guys ever experienced stuff like this?

[hector]

Is this an isolated incident or is Denmark victim of this kind of terrorist attacks, Pete?

[peterh]

hector said:

Is this an isolated incident or is Denmark victim of this kind of terrorist attacks, Pete?

Thankfully an isolated incident so far. There's been three other attacks on members of government in the last four years or so, but this is by far the worst. Last time was two years ago when left wing activists poured red paint over our prime minister screaming it symbolised the blood he personally was responsible for spilling due to his condoning the Iraq war.

Though I'm actually sad to say we might see other attacks in the future. The left and right wing fanatics are beginning to be more visible. Hope things won't be as bad as this.

[tragic]

In England we have animal rights extremists groups.....

They threaten scientists who test on animals...they have sprayed "puppy killer" on employees of suc copaies..the world is decending into terorists groups coming from all angles!!!!

This is getting riduculus.

[Dark Phoenix Rising]

It is because these people see that those that shout loudest get their "problems" dealt with sooner these days, rather than the people that try to work within the system. For some of them it is also because they see no way to get what they want within the system.

What the politicians that bow down to these people forget is that every time they enact something that a "pressure group" has demanded, they are re-enforcing the view that you can only get what you want by being radical and taking it. Unfortunatily you can't take the arrest them and put them in jail approach with the pressure groups as that just makes them marters (sp?) and brings more people to their cause.

In reality there are over 59,000,000 people living in the UK, and over 200,000,000 in the US. So even the pressure groups that say they have 10,000's of members don't even have 1% of the population on their side. Given this, can they really say that most of the people in the country are on their side? (incidently denmark has a population of over 5,000,000)

Our countries are supposed to be run by a democracy, however if pressure groups are getting their causes met, then how can the greater needs of the people be being met. Why are their needs greater than mine? Why should they be heard just because they are shouting and I am talking? Can we really say we are living in a democracy any more? Or are we back sliding towards barbarism again, where the people with the strongest arm or the most compelling voice wins?

[tragic]

I agree it seems like all groups are descending into extremists to get things done....this will invietably lead to chaos.

[ss]

Are you trying to say that everybody will eventually end up on this web site??

[Elliot Kane]

Heh. I can always HOPE, ss ;D

I might need a couple more mods, though... ;D

[Duncan]

I'm extremely supportive of immigrant rights, and find countries like Australia's policy for some of the most desperate people in the world simply appalling.

The guy in Holland (anti-ethnic monority, gay minister - only in Holland...) got killed. And a filmmaker.

I do not think acts like these are of any assistance to a cause I broadly support.

[Elliot Kane]

Extremist groups of any kind are dangerous, because it is so easy for a hard core to form who believe that anything is justifiable in the pursuit of their goals, which results far too often in violence and atrocity.

A good govt must try to balance the needs of the many against the needs of the few - and that ain't easy. Certainly, listening to pressure groups is the wrong way to go once they move past the point of reasonableness. A militant in any cause is hardly likely to want to compromise, and people must always compromise if they are to live together in peace.

[peterh]

Damn, I would've posted this much sonner, but I plain forgot.

As it turns out, it was her car that was set on fire, not her house, which makes it arson, not an assasination attempt. That, however is a technicality IMO.The car was set on fire in the garage at 3 am in the morning when the family was sleeping inside the house. The garage was very flammable and anyone with more than a single braincell knew that it would spread like wildfire. That means that the offenders knew that too.

Their intentions might've been to burn her car, but they were fully aware that the garage and house was highly flammable and the and would've killed Hvilshøj, her husband and their children if they hadn't been saved. But that didn't matter to them at all, since they'd probably have justified it as an acceptable loss.

Unfortunatly the police haven't made any arrests.

Sorry I forgot to post this, as it's an important detail.

[tragic]

Lol ss ;D

You see these people arent really helping their cause by acting like this...if they really wanted people to support thier cuase then they should take a leaf out of gandhi/luther king....i would really welcome some sort of figure like that...its what this world needs.

I dont mind immigrants in england becuase i understand that we may need to take people in case of shortage of some workers e.g doctors,nurses engineers...integration usualy happens by the second generation for those worried about it.

[Elliot Kane]

I think controlled immigration can only ever be a good thing for a country. UNcontrolled immigration can easily become a huge problem, though, as it affects the chance of successful integration - a process that is in everyone's best interests.