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Post by The Spider on Jan 28, 2006 0:38:36 GMT
This is page 3 of #4 of All-Star Batman. Hopefully they're actually out of the car before the issue gets halfway.
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Post by The Spider on May 13, 2006 18:40:19 GMT
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Post by The Spider on Sept 4, 2006 6:25:28 GMT
Huh, looks like I never got around to bumping this when #4 actually came out.
TO RECAP:
Yeah, eventually they DO get out of the car (but not before Dick goes, "When are you going to let me OUT of this thing? It FEELS like it's been DAYS!" and Bruce replying, "Shut up.")
Huge fold-out (mentioned above)! The Bach-playing Batcave with a bunch of Batmobiles (70's Batmobile, Adam West Batmobile, DKR tank, etc) and things that technically couldn't be there yet, but since this is supposedly its own Millerverse we'll let that slide (and Miller's stuff contradicts small details anyway).
Vicki Vale might die because it's all The Goddamn Batman's fault! So Bats suggests a surgeon... who's living in Paris and wouldn't get there in time. No problem, The Goddamn Batman tells Alfred to call That Clown From Metropolis to go fetch him. According to Jim Lee, That Clown From Metropolis is a powered-down version of Superman (sorta like the early 30's and 40's stuff). Apparently all the Metropolis Clown can say is "Damn" for all his appearances in the last issue and this one.
OUT-OF-CONTEXT QUOTE OF THE ISSUE: Batman says, "I touched my mother's breast. It BLED on me."
Batman wants Dick to sleep in the cave and forced to eat rats! Alfred doesn't approve of this and Batman reveals that Bats himself lived in a cave and ate rats for a while.
And now we wait till November for #5.
In the meantime, the latest WIZARD had a short interview with Jim Lee re: All-Star The Goddamn Bats and Lee admitted that he's the reason that the book's been late. And the Miller/Lee story is estimated 12 to 15 issues or something. Oh, and this:
Hooray! Hopefully this means That Clown From Metropolis and The Goddamn JLA will get specially quotable absurd dialogue. Strangely though I was actually fine with their dialogue in DK2.
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Post by hector on Sept 4, 2006 7:23:55 GMT
Strangely though I was actually fine with their dialogue in DK2. Dude, that was the old Miller. When his work had sense. This is the seriously [Censored]ed up, deranged psychotic, Batman-puniching-Al Qaeda-and-solving-terrorism, laugh until you're blue goddamn Frank Miller. I'm eagerly anticipating the next chapter in this absurd series.
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Post by The Spider on Sept 4, 2006 7:53:34 GMT
Oh yeah, and in the June 2006 issue of WIZARD Jim Lee made descriptions of the characters who'll be in The Goddamn JLA:
Well, we already saw That Clown From Metropolis. Maybe #5 will have him scream "DAMN!" and cause a sonic boom while he makes the ground shake from crushing more milk cartons. Or a cow.
Hooray! Ball-Busting, Male-Hating, Sin City Amazon! Is she gonna suggest castrating The Goddamn Batman?
Hooray! Neglected Ring Wielder!
Oh no! Strife between Flash and the JLA! I guess they hate That Guy Hit By Lightning.
Hooray! Plastic Perv!
All kidding aside though I'm thinking this is going to be interesting to see.
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Post by hector on Sept 4, 2006 8:50:11 GMT
if by "interesting" you mean "hilarious", absolutely.
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Post by Gray Lensman on Sept 4, 2006 16:04:22 GMT
That's pretty much the thing, yeah.
Miller has descended to the level of self-parody, sadly. I just can't take ASB seriously at all. The sad thing is that while All-Star Goddamn Batman is funny, I'm sure it's not intentionally funny.
He clearly doesn't get Superman or the JLA either. Rather frightening when you consider that Supes is being written far better in ASS. But then, I don't think Miller really gets anything beyond crime noir.
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Post by hector on Sept 6, 2006 6:55:10 GMT
Self parody is fun. Nextwave is brilliant. But yeah, the thing is that we really don't know if it's intentional or not.
I say it is. Rat-eating, goddamn, psycho Batman is just waaay over the top to not be intentional.
I still shudder when DiDio o Lee refer to ASBARTBW as "iconic", though.
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Post by The Spider on Nov 9, 2006 22:10:08 GMT
An actual page from All-Star Goddamn Bats #5! You know what they really should've done? They should've made Special Editions for #2-4 like they did with #1. I want to read the rest of the script to see how Miller describes this stuff. Did he have to put down, "Okay, Jim. I'm shameless. Show Clark's ass for this" for #3? It's the best way to spend the time while waiting for a new issue to come out.
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Post by The Spider on Apr 13, 2007 23:12:36 GMT
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Post by The Spider on May 17, 2007 23:52:14 GMT
Okay! It's out, and man, Jim Lee was really on target with the descriptions!
Wonder Woman really is a Ball-Busting, Male-Hating, Sin City Amazon but I prefer using the nickname Sperm Bank Hater. Also, That Clown From Metropolis actually threatens Sperm Bank Hater with, "If you commit MURDER on MY LAND--You'll pay for it with your own precious Amazon BLOOD!"
Green Lantern (at least for this issue) really IS Neglected Ring Wielder (all Hal Jordan does is make a coat hanger in this issue)
Miller's Plastic Man IS Plastic Perv (Consider this--he says to Sperm Bank Hater, "I'm ready for my PUNISHMENT, Princess Pea. Shower it ON." while in the form of a fire hydrant.)
The sequence with The Goddamn Batman breaking rapists was not bad, though.
And yes, the quotable moments did come from the JLA sequence, particularly Sperm Bank Hater's lines and That Clown From Metropolis' threat.
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Post by Gray Lensman on May 18, 2007 2:32:18 GMT
Oh, geez, was this comic horrible. Where do I even start counting the badness of this issue?
All-Star Wonder Woman was basically a refugee from 300, except with a sex change. "Shut up. You call yourselves men?" sounds like something I could see Leonidas saying.
Now I grant that Wonder Woman is arguably the most ill-defined iconic character in comics, but Miller clearly has zero grasp of who she's supposed to be. And she's not even interesting. She's just uninteresting in a cliched way rather than being uninteresting in a bland way. Instead of being a two-dimensional superheroine, All-Star WW is a one-dimensional man-hating Amazon.
Not that Superman is much better. Spider's quote shows how clueless Miller is about who Superman is. Vastly out of character for Superman to say. The more I read this, the more I dread to see the inevitable "Batman Trounces the JLA Because He's SO Smart" sequence.
And the dialogue is just cringe-worthy. "I love being the G------n Batman"? Ugh. And there's so many lines that look like Miller parodying himself. Including his habit of repeating his lines every other page.
Not only that, but aside from the All-Star JLA, there's not much this issue advances at all. The actual plot is at a standstill. We get pages of Batman beating up thugs, and a couple of pages of Alfred and Robin. And we waited a year for this?
The art is great, as usual, and the issue is so badly written it's entertaining... but this is in no way a good comic by any stretch.
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