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Post by dvdavenport on Apr 3, 2006 3:42:54 GMT
I know I should hate it. I know I should. But I've read every tie-in published thus far: Illuminati, FF, and Amazing Spidey--and they've all been really great reads. The funny thing is that when I first heard of it, I thought that it was Bendis just trying to make the Marvelverse look like the Powers-verse (ugh, that's a tongue-twister).
But the more I read about it and of it, the more the premise makes sense in (and I hate this term) a "Post 9-11 world." Given the US government's penchant for hijacking the rights of our citizens (oh, where are you, V?), it only makes sense that, assuming the MU is the "real world," they'd try to do the same to the powered few out there.
Any one interested in this, as I am?
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Post by Gray Lensman on Apr 3, 2006 4:39:40 GMT
I'm still on the fence in regards to Civil War. The concept is interesting. With Millar, it could either be great... or it could be botched utterly in the execution. I'm not yet certain which it'll be yet. I haven't been reading the tie-in books, since I'm not terribly fond of Bendis and JMS these days. But I guess we'll see where the crossover leads us.
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Post by hector on Apr 3, 2006 5:19:17 GMT
I've already said elsewhere that I violently disliked New Avengers: Illuminati. Expesive toilet paper.
But I think I could be entertained by Mark Millar, so I might check the main mini.
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Post by Elliot Kane on Apr 3, 2006 8:56:38 GMT
I'm going to wait to hear the arguments for & against before I decide, because the whole thing will hinge on that. Basically, one of the hero groups is going to be siding WITH a very fascistic piece of legislation, which is against everything they should be standing for. If the argument isn't made amazingly well, the whole thing will fail and a number of heroes will be irredeemably ruined.
If it sounds like Millar has nailed it, I'll get the mini. If not, I won't.
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Post by dvdavenport on Apr 3, 2006 13:06:21 GMT
Regarding tie-in books--it's nice to see some continuity in the MU for once in a long while. Literally, you see Tony and Peter in FF (they're on TV), and also in FF, editorial didn't just reference the meeting in NA: Illuminati, the copped a whole page, art and everything.
I think that's what's drawing me into this whole event. Continuity.
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Post by Duncan on Apr 3, 2006 13:29:15 GMT
Well, I've only read Illuminati after a month or more's break from Bendis books, and I thoroughly enjoyed it. Tony basically pitches the series, whilst at the same time managing to be sympathetic in his proponency of a very bad idea, and from that I am pretty well psyched for the series. That being said, the seven page review of Civil War in the back ain't so hot, the NWs are awful, but it's purely preliminaries.
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Post by jesse on Apr 3, 2006 23:56:00 GMT
I bought the Illuminati thing. Typical Bendis stuff, really. Overlong, talking heads kind of stuff, dull at points. The concept seems interesting enough though, and at least Tony Stark (Ghostface Killah?) gives a somewhat plausible reason for siding with the gov. The art is really nice. I liked it, but I didn't love it, like McDonald's.
As for the Civil War thing, I'll buy it and probably regret it. I hate crossovers on principle.
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Post by Duncan on Apr 4, 2006 13:22:53 GMT
Weee-eell, it's not really a crossover per se, so much as an event. It's not like you're buying Cap, say, and then you have to pick up Thor and Guardians of the Galaxy for a complete story. The Civil War mini is completely stand alone, and the only title I get that's going to be interrupted is Cap, and having read Brubaker's (excellent) House of M tie-in, I ain't anxious about quality or that.
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Post by jesse on Apr 4, 2006 19:36:26 GMT
Yeah, you're right. I'll try to be optimistic about this.
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Post by Elliot Kane on Apr 8, 2006 22:43:30 GMT
This is actually starting to look like the turkeys voting for Christmas to me...
If the act is passed, all registered superbeings essentially become conscripted by the US govt. If only registered heroes can operate, the govt controls them. Can't see the rest of the world loving what amounts to a superhuman army, either...
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Post by Duncan on Apr 9, 2006 17:22:44 GMT
Well, I think they register/are suborned to SHIELD which is ostensibly an international organisation, but it looks to have decidedly ropey intent, post-Fury's departure. Otherwise, SHIELD hunts 'em down, no?
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Post by Elliot Kane on Apr 9, 2006 17:37:25 GMT
Unless SHIELD is serving the US rather than the UN, I can't see SHIELD hunting them down - it would be none of their business. But to be honest, I have no clue who the current version of SHIELD is actually serving.
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Post by sps1000 on Apr 9, 2006 21:40:34 GMT
I'm interested in Civil War but I'll only be picking up the mini and maybe the X-Men tie in.
This has been done before during Acts of Vengence if I remember correctly but with a modern twist it could turn out to be pretty good. Call me cautiously optimistic.
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Post by Elliot Kane on May 1, 2006 5:54:33 GMT
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Post by Venom65437 on May 1, 2006 7:52:48 GMT
I will probably start this mini and see what happens. Marvel won't be cheating me again however, if we haven't gone anywhere by issue 3 or 4, I won't continue.
I MIGHT pick up the X-Men mini as well, but that's it.
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Post by howard on May 3, 2006 18:41:22 GMT
I've read the first two issues and I can't say I'm going to pick it up. Didn't really care for it at all. I found that whatever happens Marvel will probably just ignore it in a year regardless. However, the end of issue two will probably have a few people up in arms.
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Post by nights on May 6, 2006 6:01:04 GMT
What we do when we all get brored in the chat room
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Post by sps1000 on May 6, 2006 19:13:45 GMT
I want to pick this up so badly hearing all the positive buzz about it...
Maybe today if I can get my dad's g/f to take me to the comic store, she wants some comics also...
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Post by sps1000 on May 7, 2006 11:21:04 GMT
I'm mixed about this. I'll be getting the rest of the series to see where it goes but I wasn't blown away. It seemed like it read too quickly for my tastes.
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Post by howard on May 11, 2006 21:28:46 GMT
The first two issues kind of suck but the third and fourth issues are amazing. I can't tell you what happens but lets just say a major character comes back and not in the way anyone is expecting. Then there is the new...wait...that would be wrong of me to talk about.
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