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Post by hector on May 12, 2006 1:16:42 GMT
How do you know what happens up to issue four?
Can you PM the most spoilest account you can think? I'm mildly interested but not enough to really care to not be spoiled.
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Post by stevv on May 14, 2006 4:38:18 GMT
Actually, can you jus spoil it on this thread, but put a big spoiler warning on the post?
What, does Thor come back as a woman?
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Post by howard on May 14, 2006 22:25:10 GMT
I really can't. It would be wrong of me to spoil it for everyone.
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Post by Venom65437 on May 15, 2006 4:27:16 GMT
Boy Howard, you keep talking like this you might make me have way over inflated expectations!
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Post by Elliot Kane on May 15, 2006 16:18:19 GMT
First issue is kinda bland, and the New Warriors act like complete neophytes. Since when was Speedball in charge, anyway? It's SO obviously a setup that it's impossible to take seriously. It's as blatantly bad as Bendis' Avenger's Disassembled start where the dead-to-be walk carefully to the position marked X where they are intended to die. I thought Millar was above that level of bad, but sadly I was wrong.
That said, Captain America was good. And in character, which is rare enough these days to gain my approval straight out. The pro-registration guys are definitely coming off as villains, which I expected, but at the least this is interesting. It changes everything beyond repair, which is not a bad idea - as long as Marvel have thought the ramifications through properly.
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Post by Venom65437 on May 15, 2006 17:23:51 GMT
I agree with you, E.
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Post by hector on May 15, 2006 21:42:24 GMT
It seemed to me that Millar was cheap when he gave the pro-reg camp an infinately much more reasonable arguement than the anti-reg, whose defense was pretty much "uh..it's..eh..tradition and..stuff". A Bendis worthy level of tought.
Howard, may I ask how do you know these things? Given Marvel's productive pattern I very much doubt so they have anything more than issue 3 tought, much less 4.
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Post by Elliot Kane on May 15, 2006 23:20:52 GMT
I thought most telling Anti statement was actually Cap's "The govt would be telling us who the villains are" honestly.
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Post by hector on May 16, 2006 4:32:47 GMT
Yes, but coming from a cerified SHIELD agent lost a bit of its power. And it still wasn't shown as well tought and reasoned like pro-reg camp.
Basically, the 'bad' guys make sense and do bad things, while the 'good' guys position seem ill tought and do good things.
Whatever, I'm not reading it for Millar's monkey politics or shallow statements. I read it to watch Cap againts a dozen soldiers and riding a jet fighter.
Oh, and to see someone punching Iron Man. Preferably in the face. Jeez, can Marvel make a character even more unlikable?
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Post by Elliot Kane on May 16, 2006 12:32:09 GMT
Heh. I think that's the main reason I might continue reading too, Hec. Treat it as a Cap mini-series... ;D
I think Millar put less thought into the anti-reg side because most of us by instinct will support them anyway. They were never the hard sell, especially with Cap on side. When he's properly written, Cap IS the moral high ground in the MU by definition.
As for IM - yeah, he's a treacherous piece of crap, isn't he? Needs a good beat down!
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Post by Venom65437 on May 16, 2006 17:34:42 GMT
Um.... yay for the end of New Avengers??
Yes, IM really does come off as a piece of crap, especially given his relationship to Spidey and knowing how Spidey would feel about telling people who he is, and them telling him what to do.
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Post by howard on May 16, 2006 21:43:50 GMT
possible spoiler reply.....
Then you're probably going to hate the end of issue two.
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Post by Venom65437 on May 17, 2006 4:50:05 GMT
Spoilers maybe?
If you're saying what I think you are, then it is no surprize really, I expected it to happen, especially with how Peter seems to do whatever Tony says lately... almost without question. I think it's 100% out of character thou. I don't know if you've seen solicts for a few months from now, but that cover to ASM would indicate there will be an about face.... if you can take a Marvel comic by it's cover.
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Post by hector on Jun 15, 2006 5:28:43 GMT
So-so issue. Nothing like the Cap escape from issue 1.
What I gotta congratulate Marvel for is for the clever PR campaign. I loved how he made fans think they made a mistake by releasing the Thunderbolts preview last week.
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