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Post by Elliot Kane on Dec 7, 2006 9:17:57 GMT
Right now, both Tony Stark and Victor von Doom believe their way is the only way, and that all opposition to them must be crushed for 'the good of the world'.
Doom may have more honour - he is less likely to betray his friends and suddenly imprison them without trial - but only because he has no friends to betray in the first place.
Stark may have a lower body count, but he's working on it.
Both are motivated by their ideals, convinced they are right, and that only they are intelligent enough to decide what is best for everyone. Both will do very evil things to attain their goals.
So... Right now, what separates Iron Man from Doctor Doom?
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Post by Elliot Kane on Dec 7, 2006 9:26:26 GMT
Thinking about it, there IS one major difference: Stark is more successful against the heroes. In only a short time, look at what he's managed:
* Split the FF
* Destroyed the Avengers
* Made Cap a wanted outlaw
* Got a group of psychotic & totally evil villains deputised as law enforcement officers
* Cloned killer versions of his friends
* Utterly wiped out the close bonds of alliance that united the heroes
My hat is off to the guy! He's the best Marvel mastermind villain in many years!
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Post by Gray Lensman on Dec 7, 2006 9:40:37 GMT
About one thing. Stark speaks in the first person. ;D
Seriously, though, I can't really think of much, except that their visions are somewhat different. Doom is a gypsy who struggled his way to power as a European king, while Stark was born to wealth and prestige. Doom accepts his right to rule as born of merit and intellect, while Stark believes that it's his birthright that entitles him to act as he does. Thinking about it, Doom comes out looking better than Stark on this one too.
And say what you will about Doom, he hasn't murdered several heroes and jailed a number of the rest in the Negative Zone. Although... like Doom, Stark jails those who disagree with him as, in effect, political prisoners.
Tony Stark has managed to become more evil than Doom. That's actually rather frightening...
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Post by Venom65437 on Dec 7, 2006 18:02:06 GMT
Steve does have one point.... if Tony wants to be a true villian, he has to start speaking in third person.....
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Post by philster on Dec 11, 2006 22:54:22 GMT
I've not read Civil War (heard about it though), but I've always thought that Iron Man was a character that always needed some sort of special writing to set him a little more apart from the usual superheroes. Okay, so he's a playboy with a deficient heart and alcoholic tendencies. He's certainly very "human." But when he gets into his metal suit, he always acted like your typical superhero, and that at times got a little boring.
So while I'm not sure how I like that he's turned into such a villain with a big ego, I do like that he's showing a little more of his "human failings" in his costume. To be branded a villain, sometimes all you need is a big mouth and a big ego. And God knows that's something a lot of people naturally possess. Tony always did seem to me like the Marvel superhero most likely to cross the line on that point.
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