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Post by Elliot Kane on May 9, 2005 2:17:22 GMT
Portman is a good actress. The problem is the script.
And the bigger problem, by far, is that Lucas is intent on turning every epic combat on a large scale into a freakin' comedy! Laugh as Jar Jar beats the enemy robots by being a klutz! Roll around with mirth as C3PO wanders through the Jedi battle making pratfalls! Or maybe get really miffed that Lucas made the same dumb mistake in TWO films...
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Post by hector on May 9, 2005 2:41:08 GMT
Portman is a good actress. The problem is the script. I have seen a couple of good directors squeze a good performance out of her, but overall, she's wooden and lifeless, but pretty. Like a porcelain vase. Obviously, Lucas' 'faster, more intense' style of directing isn't the best suited for her. I wouldn't say it's the biggest problem, but it's certainly a big one. It reminded me of Irvin Kershnerr's commentary in ESB. The movie being very dark, he was determined to have humor, and yet he knew he couldn't have gags. The prequels highlight the difference in that.
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Post by Elliot Kane on May 9, 2005 2:45:32 GMT
Ah, Empire... Easily the best SW film ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/smiley.png) I love that one, even now ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/smiley.png)
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Post by Shan on May 9, 2005 2:45:56 GMT
Could this be the type of performance he wanted from her? I mean the no emotion thing. Shan ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/smiley.png)
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Post by hector on May 9, 2005 3:08:05 GMT
Ah, Empire... Easily the best SW film ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/smiley.png) I love that one, even now ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/smiley.png) I prefer Star Wars, but I know ESB is the better film. Could this be the type of performance he wanted from her? I mean the no emotion thing. Shan ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/smiley.png) Even when she's supposed to be falling in love in Episode II? But yeah, it wasn't her fault only.
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Post by Shan on May 9, 2005 4:57:06 GMT
Yeah, that is strange, isn't it? ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/smiley.png) You'd think that if she was falling in love that she would display alot more emotion. I gues why I asked the question I did about Lucas wanting the no emotion thing from her. is because it seems in alot of cases some are wanting less and less emotion displayed by the characters. Alot of adds, cards, pics in magazines and other stuff the people in them are displaying very little emotion. They have very solemn looks. Things like this is what made me wonder if that was the look and feel that Lucas was going for in the film. (the way he wanted her to portray the roll. I have no idea. I don't even know what she has been like in other movies. Shan
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Post by Elliot Kane on May 9, 2005 5:01:45 GMT
Lucas made the huge error of deciding to make children's stories instead of fairy tales. He doesn't seem to appreciate the enormous difference. So he wouldn't want massive amounts of 'slushy stuff' because it would put the kids off. That's my theory ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/smiley.png)
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Post by hector on May 9, 2005 5:53:06 GMT
Yeah, that is strange, isn't it? ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/smiley.png) You'd think that if she was falling in love that she would display alot more emotion. And the few times she does, or try to, she is still wooden and unnatural I suppose that's true for the Jedis. They are supposed not to show emotion. There's the code and all that.
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Post by Terrordar on May 9, 2005 6:07:20 GMT
Did I mention I have next to no interest to see this movie? ![:-/](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/undecided.png)
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Post by TheScreamMan on May 9, 2005 8:10:24 GMT
star Wars 3 will rock. I just sold out the cinema my Star Wars club booked. So ill be there at Midnight. inf act due to the wonders of the date line, Ill see it all before u ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/smiley.png) check in here and ill let u know hat its like. dont worry, no spoilers.
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Post by Tsel on May 9, 2005 14:05:37 GMT
The Japanese have a better trailer for SW RoTS than anyone else out there. It shows you more on how much darker this flick will be compared to the last two. I only live 2 hours away from Hollywood and I’m telling you a lot of people who already saw this movie at the Lucas Ranch are saying, “Finally the SW flick we’ve been waiting for!”<br>Of course the media only puts out good PR, but I’ve never heard the buzz that is going around for this SW movie on the last two. Oh, count me in, I’ll be seeing this flick on the 21st. Tsel
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Post by hector on May 9, 2005 22:44:43 GMT
Did I mention I have next to no interest to see this movie? ![:-/](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/undecided.png) Apparently, not enough times.
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Post by Shan on May 9, 2005 23:02:11 GMT
That's OK, isn't it Hector? ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/smiley.png) The rest of us will make up for his lack of interest. ;D Shan ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/smiley.png)
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Post by philster on May 9, 2005 23:20:28 GMT
I liked the Ewoks myself. ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/smiley.png) Elliot just has no love for teddy bears. ![:D](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/grin.png) P.S. Speaking of teddy bears... One thing I AM looking forward to in this movie is seeing the Wookiees' homeworld. That's long overdue to be shown.
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Post by Elliot Kane on May 9, 2005 23:49:18 GMT
Loathe the little blighters ;D
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Post by TheScreamMan on May 10, 2005 12:48:49 GMT
i think people worry about them to much. And Jar Jar. I just went in to have fun. I found all 5 films to be fun, so I like em all ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/smiley.png)
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Post by TheScreamMan on May 12, 2005 9:18:18 GMT
Reviews across the web are predominantly positive. A couple here and there say its better than 1 and 2 but not betetr than the OT. i havent heard anywhere say it sucks yet.
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Post by Dr. Doom on May 12, 2005 17:22:07 GMT
The worst part about the Ewoks was that when the SOLE Ewok died in that battle, it was made to make people feel sad. That really irked me. It was one damn teddy bear and we were supposed to shed a tear. A laughed.
As for the third star wars episode, I'll probably succumb to my hopes and go see it. That said, I know it's going to suck as the first two did. With a couple exceptions, the casting has been awful. Christensen was miserable. Probably even worse than Ben Affleck in DD, or Keanu Reeves in anything.
But it's got Darth Vadar, it gonna have good fights, it doesn't have Jar Jar, and Samuel L Jackson will likely die. You can probably count me in, if not just for the last reason. ;D
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Post by hector on May 12, 2005 22:52:15 GMT
Reviews across the web are predominantly positive. A couple here and there say its better than 1 and 2 but not betetr than the OT. i havent heard anywhere say it sucks yet. 30 positive reviews and 5 negative reviews over at Rotten Tomatoes so far. A lot of them says things like 'best since ESB' but that's not really saying much, and they said the same thing about AotC. Lots of mentions about Anti-Bush feeling in the movie. So far most of the reviews agree it's a well made movie, and have mixed reactions about Christensen's performance,.
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Post by Tsel on May 13, 2005 13:29:17 GMT
My whole reason for wanting to watch the movie is mainly to see the Emperor reveal himself and kick some major Jedi backside. The whole Jedi / Sith thing is easier to understand if you realize that they are simply two sides of the same coin. Both Jedi and Sith are religious beliefs of the force. As Lucas has put it, “They are simply looking at the same elephant, but from different positions.”<br> No, I do not think this movie will equal that of the first 3 from the 70's and 80's; however, I'm pretty sure it will be lots better than the last 2. Tsel ![:-/](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/undecided.png)
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