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Post by hector on May 7, 2005 9:11:47 GMT
I was going to add 'The Chaos Cascade's Official Thread' but it was longer than allowed.. Not even sure if this goes in here, though. So, I'm pretty pumped about the movie, pretty much due to Williams' awesome soundtrack. The main theme, Battle of the Heroes, is dark, kinetic and exciting, perfect to be the backdrop of the Mother of All Lightsaber Battle. The TV ads I've downloaded are pretty good, too. I know I'll be able to enjoy this more than the prequels due to these six factors: 1) Hayden Christensen is going to whine, a lot. He's going to keep doing his temper tantrums spoilerseven as Darth Vaderspoilers I know this, I've accepted it, it won't surprise me anymore. 2) Natalie Portman is going to continue sleepwalking through her role. Both she and Hayden are going to deliver the wooden, unnatural dialogue in a wooden, unnatural way. Again, no two ways around it. I've accepted that fact. 3) Yoda. Yes, I loved watching him go all Kermit in Episode II. Since I'm sure Lucas spent much, much, much more time refining his 'performance' than those of the living actors, I'm sure he'll act better than all of them combined. 4) Lighstaber battles. Lots and lots of lightsaber battles. Even if the rest fails, we'll still get the best lighsaber battles ever. 5) This is the one with the most emotional resonance with the Original Trilogy. Since I've watched Star Wars 3,438 more times than either Episode I or II, when I watch Anakin and Obi Wan fight I'll be thinking of old Ben's melancholy in his voice as he remembered his 'good friend' and 'cunning warrior' and his betrayal; forgetting about the fact that Anakin was an arrogant, whiny, spoiled brat and that they barely liked each other. 6) No matter how much Jar-Jar annoys me, no matter how much I think Christensen's casting is ok as long as he doesn't open his mouth or how much all the badly done exposition bored me in the previous movies, I still geek out whenever I see the words "A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far away". And unless Lucas retcon himself (again) this will be the last time I'll see them without having a clear idea of what's coming next. There you go. ![8-)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/cool.png)
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Post by philster on May 7, 2005 9:13:28 GMT
Hector, were you trying to make me lose all interest in seeing this movie? If you were, you succeeded. ![:P](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/tongue.png)
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Post by hector on May 7, 2005 9:23:50 GMT
Well, no, but I was trying to set realistic expectations about it. The two negative things I said were about Christensen and Portman, and though it might change on the screen this time, I don't expect it too. Portman is still going to look pretty, bored and confused. Probably at the same time.
Christensen is going to whine (just watching the trailer proves it) but he's also going to go all badass with an army of clones on his way to exterminate all Jedis and he's going to do all sorts of nasty and cruel things while he's at it.
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Post by Buffy on May 7, 2005 12:29:50 GMT
IM SO FREAKIN EXCITED!
I cant wait!
Hec... dont worry, i cry every time the "Star Wars" sign pops up with the start of the film and music... everytime.
Im so freaking excited!
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Post by Venom65437 on May 7, 2005 13:35:22 GMT
Eh, if someone pays my way I'll go see it, but those last two movies sucked ass.
The original three are good, but I'm not crazy about Star Wars or anything.
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Post by Shan on May 7, 2005 14:45:32 GMT
I'm with Buff. I can hardly wait. I am so excited!!I have been wanting to see this one since the first time I saw the first Star Wars movie. When I heard that the first 3 were going to be made I could hardly stand it. Now I finally get to see how it all came about. May 19 I'll be there. Hector you spoiled nothing for me. I went to see the first 2 with no expectations except to see the starting of things. I was not disappointed. I know alot of people were disappointed, but no way for me. I thoroughly enjoyed them and I am more than sure I will enjoy this one even more. Go Star Wars, May 19 Shan ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/smiley.png)
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Post by sps1000 on May 7, 2005 15:14:19 GMT
I'll be there for the first matinee. About all I can afford.
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Post by philster on May 8, 2005 6:55:15 GMT
How about this, I'll go to watch it, but being deaf, I'm also not bringing an interpreter. I'll just enjoy the special effects and not have to worry about the dialogue that will probably suck hardcore ass anyway. ![;)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/wink.png)
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Post by hector on May 8, 2005 11:40:45 GMT
I was not disappointed. I know alot of people were disappointed, but no way for me. I was dissapointed, more with Episode II than I, mainly because of what I said about Obi-Wan and Anakin. I wanted to care about Anakin, I wanted to see how great a warrior he was and the great friendship he shared with Obi-Wan. I got none of that in Episode II. Besides all the (considerable) lacking aspects of the films, that was what I was most dissapointed with. That being said, I can still enjoy them from time to time. Do I get the same emotional connection than with the OT? probably not, but I doubt even if the prequels were some of the best movies ever could accomplish that. And I'll be there on May 19th 6:45pm central time, I got my tickets already
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Post by Shan on May 8, 2005 22:35:29 GMT
Hector, I can understand what you said here. I too would have liked to have seen more of a real friendship between Anakin and Obi-Wan. I had gotten the feeling from the other films that there had been a real closeness between them, but none of this really came out in the first two movies. They seemed to be at odds with each other so much of the time. I guess one reason it didn't disappoint me was that even though it is something that I would like to have seen I had not put any expectations on seeing it. I had tried to keep on neutral ground and see the movies each for its own merits. If I hadn't done this I know I would have been disappointed somewhat in both of them. Even though this one is the one I have really been waiting for, I am trying to do the same with it. I want to try to keep an open mind and try to form any opinions on the movie's own merits. Whether I will be able to do this is yet to be seen. Shan ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/smiley.png)
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Post by hector on May 8, 2005 23:50:42 GMT
IM SO FREAKIN EXCITED!Hec... dont worry, i cry every time the "Star Wars" sign pops up with the start of the film and music... everytime. I don't cry, but I do get pretty excited. Feel like a kid again. I also can recognize which SW fanfare goes with each film, go figure. I guess one reason it didn't disappoint me was that even though it is something that I would like to have seen I had not put any expectations on seeing it. I didn't had many expectations about it, I was certainly waiting for whatever Lucas was going to give us but after the rush of seeing Jedis in action and all that subsided; i started to get more critical about the movies and the bad direction, pacing and acting was becoming more and more evident with each viewing. I found myself not wanting to watch several parts of the movies, unlike anything with the OT. I don't even hate the Ewoks. 15 reviews so far at Rotten Tomatoes. 13 very postive ones and two negatives.
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Post by Elliot Kane on May 9, 2005 1:12:57 GMT
You don't hate the Ewoks??!! How can you NOT hate the Ewoks? Good grief, man! ;D
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Post by Terrordar on May 9, 2005 1:15:47 GMT
I have next to no interest in this movie.
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Post by Gray Lensman on May 9, 2005 1:20:36 GMT
I'm going to bite the bullet and see this, even though I wasn't that thrilled with the last two. Mainly because I want to see how this finally concludes. There have been so many missed opportunities with the prequels, yeah. The romance between Anakin and Padme, the Ben/Anakin friendship, and the exploration of the Jedi Order generally have kind of lacked to me. I'm deliberately lowering my expectations, as I generally do with seriously hyped films. I am hoping for "better than the first two" at present. This movie has the potential to be that, but will it live up to it... who can say? The whining leads is typical Lucas, though. It goes all the way back to Luke whining about having to pick up power converters. ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/smiley.png)
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Post by hector on May 9, 2005 1:27:20 GMT
You don't hate the Ewoks??!! How can you NOT hate the Ewoks? Good grief, man! ;D I just think the Ewoks are pretty harmless, they don't talk and they exist to prove Lucas' point, a hackeyned, clichéd and painfully obvious point, but at least they beat the Gungans.
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Post by Elliot Kane on May 9, 2005 1:33:56 GMT
I just think the Ewoks are pretty harmless, they don't talk and they exist to prove Lucas' point, a hackeyned, clichéd and painfully obvious point, but at least they beat the Gungans. Lucas' point being that every child needs a teddy bear? ;D Or that unfeasible action sequences involving teddy bears make your audience groan? ;D But yes... They DO beat the Gungans...
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Post by hector on May 9, 2005 1:42:52 GMT
The old Nature=Good/Tech=Bad. Which was his idea all along. I don't know if he did decided to use the Ewoks instead of the Wookies for the reasons he cited or just because he tought he could sell more action figures that way, but even if he had used the wookies it would've been the same thing. Watching tall, furry, barely civilized creatures beat highly trained, fully armed soldiers with stick and stones isn't any more realistic than watching short, furry creatures do the same.
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Post by Elliot Kane on May 9, 2005 1:52:30 GMT
I would find Wookies more believable because they are freakin' enormous and stronger than oxen. Teddy bears aren't...
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Post by Shan on May 9, 2005 2:09:25 GMT
OK, kill me ![:-X](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/lipssealed.png) but I liked the Ewoks. I thought they were cute and funny. ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/smiley.png) In fact, that is the movie I have watch the most and all because of the Ewoks. ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/smiley.png) Shan ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/smiley.png)
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Post by hector on May 9, 2005 2:11:59 GMT
They would still have to fight against armored soldiers with blasters and half a dozen AT-STs.
Not the best concept to use, but as far as the overall saga it's not as big a blunder as casting the two doormats that are Portman and Lloyd. I still have some hopes for Christensen, though.
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