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Post by Tsel on Jun 28, 2005 15:47:51 GMT
If anyone is interested here is a link to be able to download a small teaser of the new Harry Potter Goblet of Fire movie that is due out this November. (Harry Potter Goblet of Fire Teaser 9.5Mb Windows Media Format WMV) Goblet of Fire - Windows Media FormatGoblet of Fire - QuickTime FormatNormally this is not downloadable, but The Shadow Knows. ![8-)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/cool.png) Tsel ![:-/](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/undecided.png)
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Post by Shan on Jun 29, 2005 1:02:03 GMT
Thanks Tsel. I had been wondering about the movie. Goblet of Fire is one of my favorite books. I am really hoping that they do a better job of this one than they did the last. I was really disappointed with Prisoner of Azkaban. The trailer does look promising. At least Dumbledor looked to have a little more enthusiasm. Maybe that is a good sign. I can hope anyway. ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/smiley.png) Shan ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/smiley.png)
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Post by hector on Jun 29, 2005 1:19:36 GMT
I am really hoping that they do a better job of this one than they did the last. I was really disappointed with Prisoner of Azkaban. Really? Why? I found it quite an improvement over the tedious other two.
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Post by Shan on Jun 29, 2005 2:02:36 GMT
Prisoner of Akzaban was one of my favorites of the books and I just didn't think the movie did the book justice. I didn't like the looks of or the way the character Sirus was portrayed. Also I was really disappointed in the werewolf. Plus there was just so much of the book that was left out that I felt the movie didn't make sense and flow the way it should throughout. The book was really a good story, but I felt that the movie tried to rely more on effects than it did on telling the story. Basically I was just disappointed. ![:(](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/sad.png) Shan ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/smiley.png)
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Post by hector on Jun 29, 2005 3:39:15 GMT
Heh, I had the exact opposite impression. I tought the focus was more on the characters than in the special effects like the two previous empty and vacuous attemp by Chris Colombus. The design was flawless, the werewolf had an original approach as well as most of the visual aspect in the movie.
It could have been a bit longer, though. As there were a few plot points that were left out. Unlike Stone and Secrets who ran far too long, Azkaban could have benefitted from a longer running time. It's the only HP movie I've liked so far.
This is my opinion solely on the movies, as I have never read the books.
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Post by Tsel on Jun 29, 2005 11:53:55 GMT
I was greatly disappointed in the third movie; because, it was a huge series of short scene fragments. You see, I have not read a single Harry Potter book, so I as a movie viewer need more background than those who have read the books. For one why is Malfoy a sniveling coward now vs. him being an arrogant, self centered, egotistical person like he was previously? What is with that Hartford? What is up with those Dementors? This movie had a ton of gaps in it for the plain movie viewer. I hope the next movie isn’t a bunch of scene fragments like this last one. Tsel ![:-/](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/undecided.png)
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Post by philster on Jun 30, 2005 2:48:34 GMT
I was disappointed with the third movie too (as Hector will remember from my posts about it at the Realm last summer) ...but I did like it better on repeat viewings when it came out on DVD. It was just one of these movies I didn't really like on inital impression. And I did read the book before I saw that movie. It was a very complicated book, however, so I think they did fairly good in adapting it - just not great great imo.
I still much prefer the first two movies. They did a good job of explaining everything.
Good question... but they did follow the book perfectly on that, if I recall correctly. Perhaps he just doesn't feel quite as confident in his father's influence anymore after what happened in the second book/movie.
Hartford?
Actually, the book didn't really explain this well either, if you're talking about the terror they radiate and why they were made to guard the prisoners at Akzban. Perhaps they were approved because they certainly would have put the fear of God in all that they guarded. However I didn't really understand why they were allowed to search for the escaped prisoner and put other innocents (like Harry) at risk.
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Post by philster on Jun 30, 2005 2:49:43 GMT
And the werewolf was badly designed. Too thin and too artifical looking. It was also too scary at some times for the kids watching the movie.
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Post by reilly on Jun 30, 2005 8:46:47 GMT
I don't see how they are going to fit everything from the book into the film. It looks to me like they are going to have to cut a lot out, perhaps too much.
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Post by Tsel on Jun 30, 2005 13:49:52 GMT
Its an Elk. Tsel ![:-/](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/undecided.png)
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Post by philster on Jul 1, 2005 11:39:47 GMT
Oh, that. I'm not sure on that, and the book didn't explain it well either. Obviously Harry thought it was his father or something at first, but perhaps it's just a manifestation of his magic that we hadn't seen before ![???](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/huh.png) Oh well. Reilly I agree with you, I think it is going to be improbable if they can even get the gist of the whole story across in the fourth movie. We may be due for some serious disappointments.
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Post by Shan on Jul 2, 2005 1:48:02 GMT
And I agree with both of you, Reilly and Phil. Goblet of Fire is a very long book with lots and lots going on. If they had a hard time getting Prisoner of Azkaban in, then I don't see how they are going to do it with Goblet of Fire without cutting out necessary material that would make the movie make sense. I am hoping for the best, but I think we could see another very choppy movie. And I hated the werewolf in Prisoner of Azkaban. It looked nothing like a werewolf and looked very fake. Shan ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/smiley.png)
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Post by Shan on Jul 2, 2005 2:00:57 GMT
Hartford? Elk? His father? What are you guys talking about? Do you mean the Patronus? You guys lost me somewhere in all of this? ![:(](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/sad.png) Shan ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/smiley.png)
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Post by philster on Jul 2, 2005 5:27:10 GMT
The Patronus, which Harry thought was his father at first when he saw it just as he was about to have his... soul sucked out by the Dementors, I guess, but it turned out to be his own magic, yep. At least that's what I think Tsel was referring to...
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Post by Shan on Jul 3, 2005 3:43:56 GMT
Was the part of it being his own magic (him creating the Patronus) that obivious in the book? Did the book tell what Harry's Patronus was? I am thinking I need to go back and reread at least parts of the book because I have either missed certain parts or I have forgotten them. Shan ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/smiley.png)
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Post by TheScreamMan on Jul 3, 2005 13:00:22 GMT
i dunno where u guys are getting hartford from. When Harry was getting sucked by dementors he saw a figure create an elk patronus which he had been told his father could do. later he of course learns its him travelling in time, and not his father.
Thats how i recall it.
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Post by Shan on Jul 4, 2005 2:13:11 GMT
Who knows where they got Hartford from, Scream. I don't remember it being mentioned in the book. ![::)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/eyesroll.png) What you said seems right to me though. Shan ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/smiley.png)
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Post by Shan on Jul 4, 2005 3:06:20 GMT
OK, guys this is going to be a long one, so get prepared. ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/smiley.png) Harry's dad, James Potter was an animagius. When he took his animal shape he became a white stag named Prongs. Now here is what the books says happened when Harry and Hermione went back in time. Quote from Prisoner of Azkaban: But no one came. Harry raised his head to look at the circle of dementors across the lake. One of them was lowering its hood. It was time for the rescuer to appear--- but no one was coming to help this time---- And then it hit him----he understood. He hadn't seen his father---- he had seen himself---- Harry flung himself out from behind the bush and pulled out his wand. "EXPECTO PATRONUM!" he yelled. And out of the end if his wand burst, not a shapeless cloud of mist, but a blinding, dazzling, silver animal. He screwed up his eyes, trying to see what it was. It looked like a horse. It was galloping silently away from him, across the black surface of the lake. He saw it lower its head and charge at the swarming dementors....... Now it was galloping around and around the black shapes on the ground, and the dementors were falling back, scattering, retreating into the darkness..... They were gone. The Patronus turned. It was cantering back towards Harry across the still surface of the water. It wasn't a horse. It wasn't a unicorn either. It was shining brightly as the moon above..... it was coming back to him...... It stopped on the bank. Its hooves made no mark on the soft ground as it stared at Harry with its large, silver eyes. Slowly, it bowed its antlered head. And Harry realized..... "Prongs," he whispered. But as his trembling fingertips stretched toward the creature, it vanished. Now I have no idea what this says to the rest of you, but to me it says that the Patronus Harry produced was his father in his animal shape Prongs. It was his father as Prongs that drove the dementors away. ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/smiley.png) Shan ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/smiley.png)
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Post by Tsel on Jul 5, 2005 17:21:59 GMT
You all are so funny. Hartford is a common USA slang reference to an Elk. At least it is common for people from my age group here in the States. (chuckle) The Hartford insurance company uses an Elk as their logo and yes I was referring to The Elk Patronus. Tsel ![:-/](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/undecided.png)
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Post by dominiccarr on Jul 5, 2005 22:05:44 GMT
Thanks for the teaser, The movie looks good. I can't wait for the new Movie and fifth book, which should be out next week, I think.
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