Death..

[BJC]

Get right down to it. What are your thoughts about death? Is it a fear? A fear of yours? A fear for others? What happens after death? Where do we go from here? I'd like some opinions.

[Elliot Kane]

I think the laws of conservation of energy ("Energy cannot be destroyed, only transformed," or close to that) pretty much prove that the animating force of the body - whatever you care to call it - cannot just vanish. So it really becomes a question of what happens to the soul after death. And frankly, that's anyone's guess...

I personally think that death is simply freedom from the confines of the body. I see no way for any kind of heaven to exist, as one person's idea of heaven may be another's idea of hell, and vice versa. The idea of heaven and hell are, to me, a kind of social carrot & stick and nothing more.

As for death - I do not fear it for myself. It's not like I can hide from it forever, after all

[Tsel]

I believe exactly as Elliot does here.
My views of Heaven and Hell are 100% different than that of Christianity or Judaism.
But my views mesh perfectly with what Elliot has said here about the soul and energy.

Tsel

[Dark Phoenix Rising]

I believe that the soul departs from the body upon death, beyond that I'm not sure what happens other than there is no heaven or hell in the christian sense of the word, and some souls re-incarnate.

[Tsel]

My personal views of Heaven and Hell are... they are not particular places, but rather events that have not happened yet and may not happen for millions of years to come.
Who knows?
I have no foundation for this belief.
It is my belief.

Next thought...

About G_D:
I know this sounds very tacky, but this has been my view since the late 60’s.
If you take Star Wars and replace ‘The Force’ with ‘G_D’ then you are real close, not exact, but real close to my views and beliefs in Life-n-Death and G_D.
Remember this has been my personal views since the late 60’s.

Tsel

[blackcatcomics]

Living in a "red", religious, conservative state that makes the deep South say, "whoa, back off from the God thing a bit, okay?", my beliefs in life after death are a bit unpopular, but here goes: who knows? Simple as that. Yeah, obviously I'm not very religious in the traditional sense, but that's how I see it. As far as I know I've never been dead and to Heaven (or Hell), so how can I say for sure? I've been to 7-11 and Wal Mart, so I can tell you how that is, but the death thing: I'll just wait and see, or not see as the case may be. Am I afraid? No. As long as it's not too soon, I'm not, but that's selfish because I want to spend as much time as I can with my daughter and others close to me.

Whew! Hey, you asked. You know, I like this Humanology Forum thing. Good idea, Elliot.

[blackcatcomics]

Oh, by the way, the state of my residence is Utah.

[Elliot Kane]

Thanks, Greg

For a forum I expected to have to close inside a week, Humanology isn't doing too badly, is it? ;D

[Terrordar]

I fear death, because it is the ultimate unknown.

I fear what may happen, I fear that I may not exist anymore even, or no longer be a conscious body.

However, I won't hide from death. Death happens to everything, one day even our sun will "die".

[blackcatcomics]

Yeah, Elliot, it's a cool topic for a forum. It's nice to be able to have something like this on a comic book website. Not only does it give people around the world something interesting to debate and discuss, it goes a long way toward proving that we all know something more than Deadpool's real name or what color Wonder Woman's underwear is. We might be geeks, but not all of us are dorks, you know?

[Elliot Kane]

We might be geeks, but not all of us are dorks, you know?

Heh. That there is a great quote ;D

Oh, and the Cascade is not primarily a comic forum. It's kind of an 'everything and the kitchen sink' forum ;D Just to be clear

[janggut]

so what colour is Wonder Woman's underwear? i need the answer before death. ;D

well death is something of a due date, end of timeframe - to me. so life in a way is a proving ground, training of sorts in preparation for the next level in life which death is a portal/transition. the question of heaven/hell, christian or otherwise, is not up to me to define.

death is more of meeting my Creator & present Him what i have done with His gift; life.

[BJC]

I dont fear death for myself at all really. From a christian perspective, its one step closer to home. But, I do fear death more for mourners then myself. It would be more painful for my family then me. I feel the same about if someone from my family dies.....but they always say 'They're in a better place'. As cheesey as it sounds, the statment isnt wrong.

[Tsel]

I consider myself a Christian, but one of the reasons why I don’t view Life and Death from the standard Christian perspective is; because, if people went directly to Heaven or Hell when they died then a lot of people would be in a hurry to die just to go to Heaven.
If a lot of people, those who consider their soul prepared, went to heaven when they died why do they fear death so much?
Wouldn’t being in Heaven be a whole lot better than being here on earth?

I hope I’m making sense here.

Tsel

[Dark Phoenix Rising]

They fear death because they fear judgement, they do not know whether they have commited some unpardonable sin that will cast them into hell.

Me I don't fear death, I just see it as a useless option in life, after all if you ask what's the point in living, you might as well ask what's the point in dying.

[Elliot Kane]

The point in dying is easy - it gives you a lot of new options you might not have in life. A sort of "The grass is bound to be greener on the other side" mentality.

The point in living is having things - or people - to live for. Purpose gives meaning, which in turn creates a point

Since you asked, DL ;D

[ss]

dragonlord said:

They fear death because they fear judgement, they do not know whether they have commited some unpardonable sin that will cast them into hell.

Me I don't fear death, I just see it as a useless option in life, after all if you ask what's the point in living, you might as well ask what's the point in dying.

From the Christian point of view, dying is an ENEMY to the human race brought about by the fall of Adam...back to my Representative system...

"For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive. But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming. Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power. For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet. THE LAST ENEMY THAT SHALL BE DESTROYED IS DEATH" (1 Corinthians 15: 22-26)

Paul stated he wanted Christ to be "magnified in my body, whether it be by life or by death. For me to live is Christ, and to die is gain------I am in a strait betwixt two, having a desire to depart, and to be with Christ; which is far better: Nevertheless to abide in the flesh is more needful for you." (Phil 1:20-24)

I agree with you, if there is no hope but judgement and fear, then living and dying dosen't make sense...but we believe that this world is temporary and will be restored to it's original intent SOON, and we look forward to it...If one believes the true teaching of the Bible on the issue, we have already been judged righteous in God's sight by faith in his Son and have been passed from death to life...we are just waiting for the consumation of it and work for Him until His time is right..
Keep on truckin....

also, as far as I know, the only unpardonable sin is really just unbelief, because if "all who call on the name of the Lord (for salvation) will be saved" is true, then it stands to reason that whichever "sin" you have commited would be forgiven if you believe and call on the Lord...right....

[ss]

janggut said:

so what colour is Wonder Woman's underwear? i need the answer before death. ;D

death is more of meeting my Creator & present Him what i have done with His gift; life.

Hey Jang, I got an action figure of wonderwoman from 1984 and as far as I can tell she didn't have any, just a costume....so you can now die in peace. (chuckle) ;D

and on the serious (more-so) side , on the other statement, (I'm in a quoting mood) 1 Cor 2:9 "But as it is written, Eye hath not seen, nor ear heard, neither have entered into the heart of man, the things which God hath prepared for them that love him." (that's also a quote of Isiah 64:4), so I am quite sure that he will be happy with what you have did with his gift, as he always reads the motive of your heart....

[janggut]

ahhh, bless u, ss. now i can breathe my last, saying - wonder woman hath no underwear. ;D

as God can easily read the motive in my heart, then i should start repenting

[ss]

Truly....shouldn't we all...