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Post by The Sonar Chicken on Dec 3, 2008 20:07:28 GMT
Still, with the kind of resistance many still have against condoms, I see little help for it. Well, I'm steeling myself for the next AIDs epidemic which is bound to come. Whatever help the governments want to offer in the future, will likely be too late. It might save the future generations but what about the current ones?
Edit: Oh and about getting the clients to stop visiting prostitutes, I think most wouldn't be bothered to change their habits. Why? 'Cos most couldn't care less if they're going to die next week: in places like certain parts of Africa(not all), I bet they live on a "day to day" basis.
Oh and for Asia: many parts of Asia stress conformity and it's a vicious cycle since no one's going to do something until someone does. But who? Most of the rich are far removed from the poor and middle classes and probably have scant idea of what's going on in there. While many politicians and religious leaders are stuck in "some era" and unable to face reality. Yet their pull on the normal citizens is quite influential.
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Post by Elliot Kane on Dec 3, 2008 20:33:50 GMT
Well, I did say it would never happen, Luci... Humanity is a very long evolutionary step away from the kind of things I'm talking about.
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Post by The Sonar Chicken on Dec 3, 2008 20:37:48 GMT
Btw, at an AIDs/HIV seminar I attended a few months ago, it was noted that in Singapore, save for 1 guy(long forgotten), there aren't any uhm... figures like how you've got those renowned people against AIDs/HIV(can't remember any names, sorry!) like in the West.
And they were saying that this was probably 'cos Singapore(or was it Asia they were talking about?) didn't go through the AIDs/HIV crisis like in the West. Other reasons probably include political apathy and other reasons like conformity, peer pressure, societal expectations, etc.
And another thing: though I don't fully remember the contents, they were showing this chart about how the number of MSM and gay men who got AIDs/HIV/STDs(in certain major cities like Shanghai, Beijing, certain American cities too, Bangkok, etc.) were rising sharply. As for heterosexuals(excluding MSM), I don't have any figures since errr... some aspects of the talk were aimed more at gay men. That or I forgot about those figures.
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Post by The Sonar Chicken on Dec 3, 2008 20:38:46 GMT
Well, I did say it would never happen, Luci... Humanity is a very long evolutionary step away from the kind of things I'm talking about. Erm... you lost me: what would never happen? ^^;; Edit: Oops... oh. Got what you meant.
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Post by Elliot Kane on Dec 3, 2008 20:45:13 GMT
Luci,
My original statement: "Truth is, humanity could eliminate all STDs inside half a dozen generations through a combination of proper education and personal responsibility. But we all know the likelihood of that ever happening, sadly..."
Likelihood = nil. IE, it'll never happen.
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The reason why AIDS has so many famous people speaking about it in the West is because so many famous people have died from it.
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Post by The Sonar Chicken on Dec 3, 2008 21:07:13 GMT
Luci, My original statement: "Truth is, humanity could eliminate all STDs inside half a dozen generations through a combination of proper education and personal responsibility. But we all know the likelihood of that ever happening, sadly..." Likelihood = nil. IE, it'll never happen. I know what you mean by the chances of being nil. Oh and, I've seen quite a few figures and information being provided by various sources(people, reports, etc.) and the situation looks really grim. I don't think that many countries could afford yet another crisis which would be a massive financial, human and health disaster. Yet, they're all shooting themselves in the backs by prohibiting talks about AIDs/HIV/STDs and spreading lies about condoms and other things. Oh yeah... speaking of HIV prevention, I do know about so-called cocktails that supposedly help prevent(not cure) HIV. Though I don't recall their names but they do work to a certain extent for many(but not all?). However, you must get them within 24 to 48 hours of that "sexual encounter/incident" or your chance is gone. *sighs* That really sucks. So, normal people don't get a chance? Way to go, man.
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Post by Elliot Kane on Dec 3, 2008 21:14:59 GMT
Well, the biggest killers in most of Africa are malaria and diarrhea (Caused by dirty drinking water) apparently. Little to no funding though, comparatively...
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Post by The Sonar Chicken on Dec 3, 2008 22:51:38 GMT
Ahh right. That's true. Hmmm.. I also did read a recent news article on how some thought that yes, Aids was a very important issue but it was also blown up by too much since other illnesses were just as relevant(if not more).
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Post by Elliot Kane on Dec 3, 2008 23:14:30 GMT
It's pretty much a fact. 'Celebrity disease' you see - so gets a lot more publicity, and publicity = political pressure = more funding.
Not saying AIDS is not important - it is, of course - but it's frequently proven to be far less than the pandemic some people have been portraying it as.
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Post by The Sonar Chicken on Dec 4, 2008 1:17:16 GMT
In any case, I'm getting a little fed-up with seeing tons and tons of research groups trying to find cures for HIV. Oh sure, more competition is better but I can't come to term with all that wasted moolah when some could just band together. It's not just about political advantage or even national pride, it's the realisation that they're likelier to take much longer. Of course, I'm an ignorant young woman unwise of the ways of the medical world. Then again, perhaps since HIV is so tough to handle, more teams are better. LOL. Yep you're right about celebrity diseases. Unfortunately, the mass audience is unlikely to stop listening. There're tons of issues(life-threatening or not) that also need some fair amount of attention 'cos once neglected, they could worsen into something far more critical. It does no good to have an inbalance.
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Post by Elliot Kane on Dec 4, 2008 6:35:36 GMT
I totally agree.
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