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Post by Galadriel on Dec 1, 2008 4:02:39 GMT
Remember those who died of aids and those who are ill in this world
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Post by Hildor on Dec 1, 2008 6:52:54 GMT
Keep hoping there will come a cure that will relieve mankind from this nightmare.
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Post by Ubereil on Dec 1, 2008 9:33:22 GMT
World Adidas Day? WTF? Übereil
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Post by Gay Titan on Dec 1, 2008 12:07:57 GMT
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Post by Galadriel on Dec 1, 2008 14:48:06 GMT
Your link ain't working Rodney
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Post by Ubereil on Dec 1, 2008 14:52:44 GMT
Your link ain't working Rodney Fixed. The code is url, not u btw. Copy-pasting it into the adress field works too. In case you run into a faulty link in the future. Übereil
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Post by Terrordar on Dec 1, 2008 14:54:31 GMT
You know, I'm kinda gonna be honest here, people who get AIDS, except for victims of forced intercourse or bad blood transfusions, ect. Don't get high points in sympathy for me.
Its like asking me to remember a bunch of jackasses who cheated on their spouses or had frivilous unprotected sex, and now feel a terrible consequence for the gamble they made. 'm sorry, but its just not that easy for me to feel bad.
Now lets say a guy got AIDS because his wife cheated on him and gave it to him, or vice versa, that I'd feel bad for. The wife? What a [Censored]. See what I'm getting at?
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Post by Gay Titan on Dec 1, 2008 15:26:29 GMT
thanks, Ubereil!!!
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Post by Alrik on Dec 1, 2008 19:56:06 GMT
The reate in which AIDS is spread is highest in Africa and in general among poor people.
THERE the money should be spent, for education mostly, and helping people to lead a normal life.
But education and things like condomes and such are the imho far most important thing there.
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Post by Galadriel on Dec 1, 2008 22:08:02 GMT
You know, I'm kinda gonna be honest here, people who get AIDS, except for victims of forced intercourse or bad blood transfusions, ect. Don't get high points in sympathy for me. Its like asking me to remember a bunch of jackasses who cheated on their spouses or had frivilous unprotected sex, and now feel a terrible consequence for the gamble they made. 'm sorry, but its just not that easy for me to feel bad. Now lets say a guy got AIDS because his wife cheated on him and gave it to him, or vice versa, that I'd feel bad for. The wife? What a [Censored]. See what I'm getting at? Of course you're free to express yourself but we don't need to listen to it. Even though it's the biggest *sshole in the world, but no ones deserves to be sick like that. Lets hope you will never get aids Spartan, cuz I'm sure you will be happy if people care for you.
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Post by Terrordar on Dec 1, 2008 22:17:48 GMT
You see Galadriel, I will only get AIDS under the pretense that my partner cheats on me with someone who has aids.
Because I wouldn't go off [Censored]ing on someone else. STDs are so common as well, before I start actively having sex with anyone without protection, I'll make sure we're BOTH clean.
So, I'm not going to get aids most likely.
And yes, if they are an [Censored] who cheats on their spouse with some dick and then gets aids. Sorry to say it, but irresponsibility reaps the whirlwind.
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Post by LaFille on Dec 2, 2008 3:50:24 GMT
I can understand a little where he comes from, though... Each case is unique and that disease is terrible, but there are some cases where my sympathy only goes so far too; it's not the majority though, thankfully.
And yeah, the situation in Africa seems very different to the one in Europe and America. I have no idea about Asia though?
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Post by The Sonar Chicken on Dec 2, 2008 6:18:57 GMT
Singapore: Oh, we're getting quite a bit of alarming cases of HIV and AIDS and STDs among young people these days: mainly in their 20s to 30s, or even teens. The problem is that well... there's little to no sex education and they only teach abstinence in most of the schools. So, you get a lot of clueless idiots who don't think that they'll ever get AIDs/HIV 'cos that like... only affects gay people or sinners. And they don't use condoms 'cos they're taught that those have holes, cause miscarriages among many other things.
The cause btw are the ignorant parents, the government which sits together with the extreme Christian right and the educational system which has churned out tons of folks with less brains than a bird since it relies heavily on pure memorisation and not too much critical thinking.
And the government up until a while ago... came down heavily on gay men (including who tried to practise what you'd term "safe sex") 'cos well... being gay was illegal. So they literally forced tons of gay men underground as well as those men who have sex with other men(and aren't gay but probably have gfs/wives). It wasn't until the amount of MSM and gay men who contracted HIV/AIDs just started doubling at an alarming rate that they started to pass laws where every couple(or people engaging in sex) has to take tests for STDs/HIV though I suspect that many won't be bothered to. Yet, it's the heterosexuals btw who're succumbing to HIV/AIDs much faster than gay men though the gov. can't be bothered about that.
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Post by Elliot Kane on Dec 2, 2008 13:27:19 GMT
Last I read, China & the Middle East were practising the 'put hands over eyes and pretend it isn't happening' approach. Coz, ya know, that works SO well...
Truth is, humanity could eliminate all STDs inside half a dozen generations through a combination of proper education and personal responsibility. But we all know the likelihood of that ever happening, sadly...
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Post by The Sonar Chicken on Dec 2, 2008 14:28:17 GMT
Meh... then it simply means that in 5 to 10 years' time, their children will suffer.
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Post by Ubereil on Dec 2, 2008 15:06:11 GMT
It's a sad affair When theres no one there He calls out in the night And it's so unfair At least it seems that way When you gave him his life
And all this time he's been getting you down You ought to pick him up when theres no one around And convince him Oh, just talk to him Cos he knows in his heart you won't be home soon He's an only child in an only room And he's dependant on you Oh he's dependant on you
And it seems so strange That at the end of the day Making love can be so good But the pain of birth Oh, what is it worth When it don't turn out the way it should
And all this time he's been getting you down You ought to pick him up when theres no one around And convince him Oh, just talk to him Cos he knows in his heart you won't be home soon He's an only child in an only room And he's dependant on you Oh he's dependant on you
Suffer, suffer the children Suffer, suffer the children Suffer, suffer the children Suffer, suffer the children
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Post by Galadriel on Dec 3, 2008 14:55:40 GMT
Thank you Ubs, that was a nice poem
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Post by Ubereil on Dec 3, 2008 17:16:14 GMT
Thank you Ubs, that was a nice poem It's a song... Übereil
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Post by LaFille on Dec 3, 2008 19:26:20 GMT
By situation, I meant also the amount of infected people and how accessible protection means are.
I don't think only education and individual responsibility could be enough to eradicate this disease; it could be if all the world had a situation similar to that of the "developed" countries, but that's not the case... In Africa, where the highest rate of HIV-infected people are, a great amount of the population doesn't even have enough means to eat so how could they get stuff like condoms. Without counting that for a lot of women in those poor places prostitution is the only way to survive.
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Post by Elliot Kane on Dec 3, 2008 19:59:46 GMT
Responsible behaviour by humanity as a whole would include not just responsible behaviour by individuals but also ensuring the proper distribution of condoms worldwide.
As responsible people would not visit prostitutes at all, though, that part of the argument is pretty moot. Many prostitutes may have no choice, but the clients ALWAYS do.
'Responsible' includes allowing for the psychological & emotional welfare of your partner, after all...
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