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Post by riverman on Jun 24, 2006 23:09:55 GMT
I have friends that do coke , if they ever threatened to kill me or any other person I love or know , I would consider that bad judgement on my own part. Meaning that I would know this guy wasn't a friend . You have to protect yourself ..........no sympathy should be given to any violent person drugs or not . There's a saying that goes ; the drunk mouth reveals the sober mind , consider this guy dnagerous drugs or not . that's my humble opinion
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Post by LaFille on Jun 25, 2006 0:55:02 GMT
No problem with your mood and so; it's normal that you were worried with what you (didn't) knew.  In any case, all you can/should do for him at this point IMO is to direct him to competent help; at least until he gets down and softens (and leaves drugs). I don't think you should feel the responsibility to help him face his problems (which don't seem to be light ones and will likely take much time to get over - if he wants to) by yourselves, especially since he's threatened you. Once/if he'll be on track to solve his problems, then you'll can give him some more friendly support... But as you say... you can't help him if he doesn't want to help himself.  I hope things get worked out for all of you. In the meantime, protect yourselves and each others nonetheless and stay away from him when he's drunk or stoned - or too much on the nerves... |
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Post by Shan on Jun 25, 2006 4:31:51 GMT
Peter, it's good to know that you are OK.
I hope you get things worked out without anybody getting hurt.
Sounds like the guy really needs help. The thing is no matter how much his friends want to help him, he's the only one that can do it.
It is sad, but unless he wants to make things better for himself and is willing to put forth the effort, things are not going to change.
Take care.
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Post by peterh on Jun 25, 2006 17:45:39 GMT
Latest update.
Frank is still an idiot and still pissed. Pia Mia borrowed some poker stuff from him and he originally went even further into a rage and demanded she returned it the next day. Then came Saturday and we didn't hear a thing from him so we were sure he was feeling ashamed.
Not so!
He just send Pia Mia a text message telling her to MAIL his stuff, as she should NEVER set foot near his apartment again. EVER!Damn our big hearts for wanting to help the guy. Now I honestly don't care about losing his friendship. I don't know what will happen now. He might be so [Censored]ed up he wants revenge but time will tell. I just lost all patience with the guy.
Btw, I just heard Jes, who wasn't out here, are going to talk to him and deliver the poker stuff. so hopefully he'll be able to talk some sense into him.
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Post by janggut on Jun 26, 2006 3:29:06 GMT
Pete, stay safe, will u? so far from your posts, i can see that u haven't done anything wrong - from standing up for your buddy Piet, risking your own neck to do something good, alterting the police, trying to talk with Frank, even thinking of his welfare though he doesn't deserve it & still be his friend, a true friend. Frank should feel so embarrased about messing things up & also grateful to have a friend like u, Pete. in any case, dump this one & get a better friend. |
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Post by tragic on Jun 26, 2006 14:36:05 GMT
Pete:
Good to hear your safe man.
When i was at Uni a bloke came and knocked on my door and asked for someone else. I tld him i was living here for a while and i and done so for over a year.
So far so good....i didnt think anything of it.
When i had gone out a night the next day my friends said the same guy came and knocked this time carrying a kinfe....
I was out the next few nights and the same thing happened.
I couldnt go to room accomodation office as it was a bank holiday but i kept a knife handy.
My friend who lived in the next room confiscated it saying if he knocks i just sholdnt go out(or answer)...he was right but he forgot that if i needed to use the bathroom what would I do???
Nothing happened that night but the next night me and my friend were in my room and he went to use the toilet.
Suddenely the door opened and the same bloke was there...i couldnt see if he was carryig a knife....
Normally i am a slow thinker but at that time i realised that if he was going to atack me the only thing i could do as to smash him over with the heavy chair which i was sitting on.
Luckily for some reason we he saw me he left.
Why was he behaving like this?
He was on Esctasy and got busted.
Moral of the story:
Avoid danger/cofrontaton and tip off the athourties anonymously.
Off course becuase hes your friend it might be difficult but sometimes you have to be cruel to be kind.
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Post by Dark Phoenix Rising on Jun 26, 2006 14:40:38 GMT
I'm glad that you and your friends are still here with us, and that the threats turned out to be just that.
I hope that if you are unable to help your friend, that he will find someone that will be able to, and that in the future these things can be glossed over and your friendship resumed (if it didn't continue)
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Post by met on Jun 26, 2006 22:46:50 GMT
oh sweetie. First of all, I'm glad you and yours are safe. Secondly, I hope you all stay safe. As you already have good advice, I am just repeating it here:
1/ record all threats/episodes. Even if you don't go to the police with it, having a record may help him if he seeks help to show how he has been affected by the coke.
2/ have a look at what support/rehab etc is available in your area. he may choose not to go there, but if he has the information then it will be an informed choice to seek assistance or not. Which in some cases is all you can do, even for a friend.
And last, but certainly not least, speak with your other friends who have been affected by this. Make sure that you set up a safe place to talk/meet/go if you feel in physical danger, so you aren't sitting there thinking "is x ok?"
And know that if you want a break, plane fare to London is easy. I'll even buy you a beer.
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Post by Ubereil on Jun 26, 2006 22:59:33 GMT
One beer won't be enough  . Übereil |
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Post by fourleafclover on Jun 27, 2006 18:55:39 GMT
I have friends that do coke , if they ever threatened to kill me or any other person I love or know , I would consider that bad judgement on my own part. Meaning that I would know this guy wasn't a friend . You have to protect yourself ..........no sympathy should be given to any violent person drugs or not . There's a saying that goes ; the drunk mouth reveals the sober mind , consider this guy dnagerous drugs or not . that's my humble opinion Well put! My thoughts as well. |
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Post by Alrik on Jul 1, 2006 20:27:44 GMT
Now I've got a reason more to stay away from that stuff.
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Post by Ubereil on Jul 2, 2006 13:54:21 GMT
Now I've got a reason more to stay away from that stuff. What reason? Übereil |
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Post by Alrik on Jul 3, 2006 12:14:19 GMT
Don't wanna get psycho.
I wouldn't know how I would react anyway.
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Post by Ubereil on Jul 3, 2006 12:41:26 GMT
Thinking of you being hypersensitive? Yeah, not something you would like to experiment with, is it?
Übereil
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Post by Alrik on Jul 3, 2006 21:52:08 GMT
Yes. Well, "hypersensitive" isn't quite the right word ... I'm used to say "highly sensitive".  ;D |
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