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Post by peterh on Jun 23, 2006 22:46:31 GMT
I am very shaken.
I had a fun night with my friends and enjoyed some talking and drinking but it went wrong. Very very very wrong. Let me backtrack. I wen to to Eddies Poolhall in the afternoon to play with frank and Jes. We had a good time and then I went home to grill and have fun.
Let me tell you about Frank. He's one of my best friends and a former UN soldier for Denmark. He's done his duty and has some occasinal problems from that. Frank has met many people there and still knows some very tough people - I have heard true stories.
What happened is that Frank got drunk, which he has done before, and started talking about Yogaslavia. Somehow he got it into his head that my best friend and roommate Piet had continually disregarded his friends actions. Those who died. Furthermore he thought that Piet had been groping Franks grlfriend. Both things never happened but Frank came to our house and wanted to kill Piet. We tried to talk him down, I even tried in private - but after many attempts and being pushed I had to back down or he'd have seriously beaten me up - he was inches from being beat but I had to stand up for piet as long as I could.
Anyway we lied to him and said Piet was away but it didn't make him leave so we had to call the police. We tried all we could be nothing could be gone. My friend Rebekka called but he thought I did. I saw his eyes and I am a target now. As is all in my house and all the people here. I tried to talk to his best friend but I don't know what will happen. I don't very much like him now and we have tried to get another guy to talk to him. If it doesn't work, I might have to. The problem is, that Franks is pissed and he does see this as a betrayal. And if so, he does know the people to contact and what to do. If he does .. people are dead.
And I don't know what to do. I am worried. Seriously!
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Post by nights on Jun 23, 2006 22:53:29 GMT
Well first talk to his girl she may help some.. then try to call him and let him know you only call the cops cause you didnt want him to get in a world of trouble for doing something without a clear head... Second see if Piet can find a nice spot to relax for a couple of days while this guy cools off..
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Post by Galadriel on Jun 23, 2006 23:03:08 GMT
I can't do much to help you peter, but I wish you all the luck to get rid of the guys. Blessed be my friend
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Post by peterh on Jun 24, 2006 0:19:11 GMT
So I might need to go kinda into hiding. he just called and said he'd come with four people to massacre us all tonight or this wekeend..
We have called the police but they cannot do something until he kicks the door in...
And he just said an sms that said "dead" and on the phone he seid he had four guys coming round tonight or this weekend. And he know where people's families live...
I need to hide somewhere else than denmark
this is seriously scary...!
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Post by Ubereil on Jun 24, 2006 0:41:37 GMT
Seems unreal really. Not the kind of thing you'd think happen to you, so to speak. Erm... Don't go die, will ya? Please?
Übereil
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Post by nights on Jun 24, 2006 0:42:30 GMT
Keep you head down and stay safe bro.. just dont do anything to get yourself hurt.. just remember we all be thinking about ya..
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Post by Shan on Jun 24, 2006 0:50:21 GMT
Peter, take care. Play it safe and don't get yourself hurt.
We love you and don't want anything bad to happen to you.
I'll be sure to keep you in my prayers and ask Chris and the girls to do the same.
Stay safe.
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Post by Gray Lensman on Jun 24, 2006 0:53:49 GMT
Sounds like a bad situation all around, Peter. Wish I could say or do something that could help. For right now... all I can do is hope you and your friends don't get hurt. Take care, Peter. I can only hope things turn around soon.
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Post by peterh on Jun 24, 2006 1:10:36 GMT
I tried to reason with Frank. I called him but he told me never to call again and hung up. He seems to be at home at last and hopefully he will get some sleep and get some reason...
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Post by riverman on Jun 24, 2006 1:23:13 GMT
man , this dude sounds really bad , it's not smart for him to make threats , I'm not sure how serious this guy is but I would think someone intent on hurting people would do it and not make threats...I hope it works out man....peace be with you all
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Post by Elliot Kane on Jun 24, 2006 1:46:24 GMT
Normally Riverman is right.
This guy sounds like total scum, to me. Keep all the messages, make records and pass the lot onto the police if you get any more trouble from him.
Death threats are a crime in England, and I'm sure they are in Denmark, too.
Meanwhile, avoid like the plague.
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Post by Venom65437 on Jun 24, 2006 6:40:48 GMT
Buy a gun. A really, REALLY big one.
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Post by Ubereil on Jun 24, 2006 9:56:12 GMT
Don't buy a gun, avoid fighting him. The risk of ending up dead is too big if you start fighting him (especially if useing a gun).
Übereil
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Post by Alrik on Jun 24, 2006 11:03:32 GMT
I guess you don't have much experience about life out there. These things CAN happen. And yeah, the worst thing is that police can't do a thing until it's too late. THEN they act. Peter, keep them (the police) informed. Say to them that it it is their fault when there is bloodshed, and warn them that you DID warn them - so there's no escape for them (meaning : they can't say they haven't been warned or informed early enough). It is the weekend now; I guess you just make a long trip to some favourite place, and warn neighbours that they might come and probably break down the house. Get yourself some allies !
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Post by Galadriel on Jun 24, 2006 17:55:02 GMT
Peter, I really really hope you're ok at the moment and that these guys will finally back off. You really need to set some traps or something to slow them down if they get in your house. And try to call the police again, a deathtreat is a crime here too, the police can at least send a patrol to watch the house for a while.
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Post by Venom65437 on Jun 24, 2006 18:01:14 GMT
Yea, they can't at least send a police office to drive by a few times a day to make sure nothing is going on?
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Post by peterh on Jun 24, 2006 18:07:36 GMT
Hey peeps.
Sorry if I seemed desperate or hostile in the chat or on the board yesterday but people were pretty much afraid yesterday and maybe we wen't overboard.
Let me sum things up. After I made the last post I once again got a threat. After that - nothing happened. No one has heard anything from him since, though there is light in his living room - he lives pretty much just across the street from here. A friend, who wasn't involved in all this has tried to call and text Frank. Nothing happened.
We found out, pretty much as expected, that Frank was doing coke and it's the reason he goes psycho. He's unfortunatly been taking it on several occasions lately and the last time he did it, he trashed a guy (what he told us) because he wore a cap. He came to our apartment (I wasn't in) in the morning full of tears and talked to Piet about it - yes, the very same Piet he wanted to kill. In that talk he admitted it was a problem and he needed to stop. He felt very guilt ridden and wantd to commit suicide. I don't know if he did beat that guy up - I honestly believed he was excaggerating. But after yesterday my mind has changed. It's the drugs that make him a psycho.
What to do now - I don't know. We've been talking about it and while Piet understandably pretty much wants nothing to do with him we all agree that he needs help. He's got some problems that he needs to deal with and by just abandoning him, as we all feel like, it might make things worse. Felling alone and guiltridden he might hurt himself or maybe do more drugs and hurt someone else - because unfortunatly he has the means and friends to do all the harm in the world if needed be.
This is a serious moral problem. All of us wants him to go to hell but we still recognises he needs help desperatly - so abandoning him might not be the best option. If he ever wants to gain a level of trust from any of us it will take a hell of a lot on his part. He has to admit his problems and work them out for a start. And then he should never use drugs - ever again. If it does happen, then he's on his own - as we probably should leave him at right now.
I know this stuff happens and I have been threatened before. But this is/were one of my best friends who threatened to kill us and I've had fun with him at a pool hall 6 hours earlier. We've had a lot of fun together but he is severly messing up his life on drugs. That is why it is so unreal - that he could just forget the friendship and threaten to kill all his friends. I guess that is what drugs do to you.
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Post by peterh on Jun 24, 2006 18:10:50 GMT
Peter, I really really hope you're ok at the moment and that these guys will finally back off. You really need to set some traps or something to slow them down if they get in your house. And try to call the police again, a deathtreat is a crime here too, the police can at least send a patrol to watch the house for a while. Thanks for the concern all. Nothing has happened, as I said earlier, but I don't know if anything will happen if he starts doing coke again. It is likely, though I hope not. It's just one guy at the moment KE, and it's not likely, imo, that he will send for any others as he threatened to. He is nowhere to be seen and I hope it stays that way. I might call the police later, or I think Piet will be doing it actually. And I doubt Frank will be doing coke tonight - but still he could be pissed at us and have no need for it anyway. But I don't think he is - I hope he feeels very very bad, seriously.
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Post by Galadriel on Jun 24, 2006 19:59:45 GMT
Glad to hear so Peter, we would be horryfied if someone had harmed you. Please stay away from that Frank guy next time, he is clearly no good friend for you at all.
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Post by Ubereil on Jun 24, 2006 21:20:09 GMT
All I can give you is sympathy really. If a friend of mine started doing coke (and doing stuff like the one Frank just did) I don't know what I'd do. Probablly search for some good drugrehab and then convinse him to go there (somehow). Because for his sake (and if you decide to help him, your) he's got to stop doing drugs. And I'm not sure he's able to do it all on his own by pure mental strenght (drugs are known for breaking down your mental strenght...).
Übereil
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