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Post by hector on Jul 11, 2006 1:18:27 GMT
I may not post much lately, but as the guy in my avatar said, 'I'm always around'
And I mean, just reading a couple of threads here and there you could notice that something wasn't quite right. There seemed to be a few troubles here and there, and not something specific to a subject like the monthly "Creationism vs. Evolution" debate there seems to be. More like something personal.
So, if there was something wrong that could spread elsewhere, Elliot and Steve would be pretty piss-poor admins to not notice it, and not do something about. And they are not.
I may be slightly biased, because I've always liked E and S, and tought that Nights is a...well, let's not speak ill of the gone, eh?. In any case, I don't think I'm biased when I say that S and E are two of the most calm and toughtful guys I've ever met, not prone to overacting. Almost to a fault. So when they say they had their reasons to ban him, I believe them.
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Post by Elliot Kane on Jul 11, 2006 1:25:55 GMT
Thanks, Hec. That means a lot
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Post by hector on Jul 11, 2006 1:42:11 GMT
Don't mention it.
Also, for everyone who would question the ban, let's consider this:
I think this must have happened to every one at one point or another. You're having a party, or a reunion. Some friends. Talking, drinking, making out in the corner (that would be Pete and Jang) and generally having a good time. Most of them you like, some you don't like but allow as long as they are making the rest have a good time, or some you just don't know. But then someone starts to make some trouble. In your house. What do you do? Me? I'd kick him out (and done so, more than once) without second thought, and without any apology.
Is it personal? Yes. Did he offend the wrong person? Yes, me. The owner of the house. For whatever reason.
This is Elliot's house.
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Post by Terrordar on Jul 11, 2006 1:49:19 GMT
I always thought it was my house, as EK is my English Butler, Alred! Get me another beer, and clean the damn batcave.
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Post by hector on Jul 11, 2006 1:53:50 GMT
And who's the guy with the bare legs and pixie boots?
Pete?
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Post by Terrordar on Jul 11, 2006 2:10:56 GMT
No, I was thinking Steve could be Richard, just because I'd always get to call him Dick
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Post by Shan on Jul 11, 2006 2:57:39 GMT
i guess some of you are wondering about me and i think i need to clear a few things up. whether you agree or disagree, it doesn't matter to me. i'm not going to be hurt with anybody because i happen to see things differently than they do. first of all, i want everybody to know that i have never been hurt by nights or by anything that he has said. maybe others have but not me. i consider him a friend, a very good friend. he has been there for me when i've needed someone to talk to and i appreciate that very much. i will miss him greatly. also some of you may not believe me when i say this, but that is your choice. nights has never tried to control me or my way of thinking in the rpg or on the boards. he has never been manipulative in any way where i am concerned and yes i do know when people try to manipulate and control me. if i do something it is because i want to do it not because someone manipulated me into doing it. this also holds true with the character i played in the rpg. ash was never manipulated by leim (nights' character). she always did what she wanted to and said what she wanted to say. a few times i tried to control her and made a mess of it because i was trying to please everybody instead of doing what ash wanted to do. yes, i am one of the ones who got hurt by all this mess, but it was not by nights or anything that he did. i was hurt because i did not get a chance to talk to my friend and try to help him before he got kicked out of awakening. i was not even given the information on what was wrong so that i could go to him on my own and try to help him. this is what hurt me. elliot and steve both told me that it was an admin/gm decision and i accept that. it still does not help how hurt i feel that i let a friend down when he needed me the most. so it is not elliot and steve that hurt me. neither was it nights who hurt me. it was the situation and not being given the opportunity to try to help a friend through a very rough time. i am very loyal to my friends; i stand beside them even through the rough times and i will do anything i can to help if i am given the opportunity and the information. i wasn't given this chance and i am hurt, very hurt because he needed me and i wasn't there for him. i hate mind games. so we agree to disagree.
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Post by Gay Titan on Jul 11, 2006 3:03:38 GMT
And who's the guy with the bare legs and pixie boots? Pete? no, silly, that's me!!!
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Post by Gay Titan on Jul 11, 2006 3:05:39 GMT
And Shan, you are an insightful woman.
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Post by Misty on Jul 11, 2006 3:18:20 GMT
Not to ruin anyone buzz but could we stop dancing on my brother's grave? I stop trying to get any answers or any reasons but can you we not make it were you are bashing my brother. It's over and done with. I thought it was said somewhere things were going to stay respectful...
Though some of you I don’t understand people who never interact with are doing backhanded slaps like they had to deal with him on a regular bases. You people do realize most of his 200 some posts were on a board most of you don’t have anything to do with. In chat he fought with the total of two people… One of them is Drathal and he showing more class then the other.
Thank you, Shan. I know it was hard for you to post that. I am once again sorry that you had to be hurt. You are a good person and did what you could under this situation and probaly was the most level headed out everyone.
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Post by hector on Jul 11, 2006 3:30:13 GMT
And who's the guy with the bare legs and pixie boots? Pete? no, silly, that's me!!! Not until you shave your legs on a regular basis like Pete does.
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Post by janggut on Jul 11, 2006 4:48:11 GMT
yeah, i agree to this thread being closed, as a number already shown their support for EK & Steve in whatever decision that they have done. also to respect Nights (yes, everyone deserves respect somehow), as well as Misty's wishes & not to forget - Shan's feelings, i really hope that we stop talking in public forum on what has happened to Nights & move on. theer is always PM should any of u still want to pursue this but i rather that we let the issue rest as it should. Shan, u know where to look for me.
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Post by BJC on Jul 11, 2006 13:07:46 GMT
You people do realize most of his 200 some posts were on a board most of you don’t have anything to do with. In chat he fought with the total of two people… One of them is Drathal and he showing more class then the other. Ahhh, good for him.
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Post by Misty on Jul 11, 2006 13:45:59 GMT
BJC could you leave me alone? I am trying to get away from this but you being snide on every thread involving it makes it hard. Forgive me for not wanting this thread to turn into a ‘Ding Dong the Witch is Dead’ thread. I am trying to get away from this but the constant crap with you in the chat room and on the board is getting annoying. I have yet to do anything to you, BJC and just would like this matter to be dropped or just be civil, but you don’t seem to want that.
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Post by BJC on Jul 11, 2006 13:55:15 GMT
More hypocrisy and lying.
AND I QUOTE: "the TD is handling it with more class then the other" Really letting it go there, Misty. Really. If you don't want an answer, don't complain.
AND I QUOTE FROM THE Disciplinary thread: "Well Bye Hector! This rule screws you and BJC over! " Really, really, trying to let it go, aren't you? See a growing pattern here? You can quit trying to make me look bad by coming up with crap and saying I'm bothering you in the chatroom when you can't keep your mouth shut and can't stop sliping insults to me with attitude whenever I'm in.
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Post by Misty on Jul 11, 2006 14:06:50 GMT
I was just making observant, BJC. You don't want to it seem to hold this situation with any class or decorum. I admit that I found it annoying that Elliot didn’t follow his own banning protocol and decided that the rules should change mid game. I am sorry that I wont let you turn my brother’s banning thread into a celebration it just seems tacky.
And in the chat room you were the one who wouldn’t allow me to get off the subject for I was already tired of it, but you seem to be the one who wants to keep this going for some reason.
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Post by BJC on Jul 11, 2006 14:08:36 GMT
Memory slipping? Once you started moaning to another member I told you that you oculd quit replying at anytime.
Nobody is turning the banning thread into a celebration...had we wanted to, you'd be the last person to stop us.
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Post by Ubereil on Jul 11, 2006 14:17:22 GMT
That was more like you sticking a stick up her ass and telling her she could ignore it if she wanted to.
Übereil
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Post by Elliot Kane on Jul 11, 2006 14:17:52 GMT
Let's keep this thread insult and fight free please, people.
This is a very serious issue, and one I feel boardies should be allowed free comment on, so the thread stays open. There has been and will be no celebrations - it's nothing to celebrate, after all.
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Shan - as always, I respect your both your opinion and your right to hold it.
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Post by Misty on Jul 11, 2006 14:18:20 GMT
You really expect me just ignore you when you clearly just trying to push the issue? I don't think you have earned the right to have the last word on this, my family or me.
I have been trying to be calm about this. I admit at first I wasn’t but now you are just trying to make things hard for me.
Thank you, Ube. You are a good guy.
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