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Post by Elliot Kane on Feb 29, 2008 12:54:53 GMT
I think Ube's is pretty much the majority view, here. Whatever your intent, Winterfox, it DOES seem like you're being quite rude to gal over her choice of reading material. Slate the author or the novels by all means, but "I can't believe you like this utter garbage" type comments DO tend to imply that the person you are talking to has no taste. I think you might do better to try something like, "I tried those, and I thought..." or "I don't like those because..." That way your intent to insult author rather than reader is clear and unambiguous  |
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Post by Winterfox on Feb 29, 2008 13:18:26 GMT
In other words, you don't only state your opinion about the books, you claim that Gal's view of the book is wrong since they differ from yours. Big fat-arse assumption right there. Saying "Wow, you actually like that?" does not spell "You're wrong", sorry. I think Ube's is pretty much the majority view, here. Whatever your intent, Winterfox, it DOES seem like you're being quite rude to gal over her choice of reading material. Ube is also making loads of assumptions. Let's see, what? I've slated the books and the author. What then do I imply? That Galadriel reads and likes a book I consider trashy? So what? I giggle at immature pornish medieval poems and read comedic manga. That the books are pornographic? They do happen to be stuffed from end to end with sex scenes; again, so what? I read porn sometimes. Plenty of people, I'm sure, enjoy porn--and if you assume that part of my post is insulting, then you either think porn is shameful, or that I consider it shameful to enjoy porn. Which is it? Either one is silly. And if I question her for liking them, what then? Can she not stand her opinion to be questioned? |
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Post by Elliot Kane on Feb 29, 2008 13:27:36 GMT
Actually Winterfox, I assume that your intent is being lost because of the way that you make your points. I don't think you mean to be insulting, but I do think you can come across that way because your phrasing does not entirely correlate to your intent. Which is why I suggested that a different approach may serve you better |
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Post by Galadriel on Feb 29, 2008 13:29:20 GMT
@ winterfox
I would appreciate if you stop calling Jean's books porn ok?
And as for "Can she not stand her opinion to be questioned?"
I'm not sure if I understand this well enough. But i don't feel like defending myself against you.
Oh and btw, if you like Titanic for example, is that also only for the sex scenes in it? 
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Post by Winterfox on Feb 29, 2008 13:56:23 GMT
I don't like Titanic. Try something else. Also, I think Titanic is melodramatic tripe. @ winterfox
I would appreciate if you stop calling Jean's books porn ok? See, this isn't about me tearing your opinion down at all. It's about you reacting badly to someone having a negative opinion about something you like, no? You're not asking "I'd appreciate it if you don't tell me I have trashy tastes"; you're asking "please stop calling something I like porn." A huge, huge difference. Also, I don't feel any shame for enjoying porn, and I still maintain that Auel's books are just Stone Age porn--sort of like prehistoric Harlequin/Mills & Boons romance, complete with all the cliches those entail. Sure, Auel stuffs her books full of frankly bizarre speculation about prehistoric life, but her books are driven forward by Ayla's relationship with Jondalar "My dong is the biggest you'll ever see", so I classify it as romance. Because many of those pages, when not spent in textbook copy-and-pastes, feature scene after scene after scene of sexsexsex, I consider these books unmitigated porn. I'll quote Mrs Giggles' review, because she's wittier and funnier than I (and she, in fact, thinks Auel is good fun!): If there is one book you have to read from Jean "She's not dead, because there's a new book coming out later this year!" M Auel's overwrought, badly written, Barbie-esque Earth's Children series, it's book two - The Valley Of Horses. This book, my friends, is the perfect Barbarian Porn Show. The sex alone is worth plonking down the $7.99 price - okay, I paid $5.99 for it back in the 1990s - to enjoy. Low, down and dirty, and oh so disgustingly Barbarella-esque, it's sleazy dirty no-good fun that ranks down there with your Mother warning you that doing that will make you go blind.
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The prose pushes the definition of "purple" to the limit, but dang, the sex is cool. Gigolo barbarian heroes, hapless lily-wilt heroines wearing impractically skimpy clothes needing hero to teach them how to be a woman, and lots of skanky, gratuitous Dongalar sex. It's so guilty pleasure, I tell you. The details may be there, but Ms Auel can't tell a story to save her ass. She can do though a lot of bad, mean Conan the Barbarian badass glorious skank sex to tantalize and tease in the lowest of lowbrow. And I like that. Everyone who's into guys needs at least one Dongalar in his or her life, I say. A man who gives good head is definitely a prize.
Viva la Dongalar! |
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Post by Lews on Feb 29, 2008 23:10:37 GMT
Okay, now explain in detail how that was a personal attack. Please. Especially compared to, oohhh, this: Kekeke. Oh I'm sorry did I type that? Why would I do that. That seems to be rude! Wow. I had no idea that wasn't allowed, I was just following your example. There is a clear difference between not liking the books, and insulting the person. The way you said it makes it clear you're attacking her. I'm sure elliot is telling me not to reply later in this thread, but I haven't gotten there yet. Winterfox, you're a [Censored]. |
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Post by Elliot Kane on Feb 29, 2008 23:14:22 GMT
I haven't YET Lews, as you should know not to throw insults by now. I will now, though. Quit it.
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Post by Winterfox on Mar 1, 2008 0:03:46 GMT
Okay, now explain in detail how that was a personal attack. Please. Especially compared to, oohhh, this: Kekeke. Oh I'm sorry did I type that? Why would I do that. That seems to be rude! Wow. I had no idea that wasn't allowed, I was just following your example. "TEACHER! SHE DID IT FIRST! Waaaaaaah, baaaaaw." |
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Post by Galadriel on Mar 1, 2008 0:41:14 GMT
"TEACHER! SHE DID IT FIRST! Waaaaaaah, baaaaaw."  |
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Post by Lews on Mar 1, 2008 6:18:13 GMT
Is that the best you have Winterfox? Please.
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Post by Galadriel on Mar 1, 2008 10:25:12 GMT
Is that the best you have Winterfox? Please.  |
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Post by Winterfox on Mar 1, 2008 12:32:19 GMT
Is it a matter of sticking together, or simply someone not being able to fight her own battles? Heh.
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Post by Galadriel on Mar 1, 2008 15:36:33 GMT
Is it a matter of sticking together, or simply someone not being able to fight her own battles? Heh. |
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Post by Lews on Mar 1, 2008 18:46:36 GMT
If you consider this a battle you're pretty pathetic, Winterfox.
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Post by Elliot Kane on Mar 1, 2008 22:22:34 GMT
Right. Now let that be an end to the quarreling.
I've been re-reading Stan Nicholl's Orcs books. Rather good, and I like the unique viewpoint of taking the Orcs as main protagonists.
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Post by Konrad Flameheart on Mar 5, 2008 18:57:29 GMT
Just finished "Legion" which is book 7 of the Horus Heresy series. Was released on monday but i managed to get my hands on it early. Really good book, if you like your sci-fi. and like me you are a said Games Workshop fan  |
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Post by popstar17 on Mar 18, 2008 22:35:31 GMT
A Raisin in The Sun. Its for school but I kinda like it.
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Post by Ubereil on Mar 19, 2008 16:00:08 GMT
The War of the Flowers by Tad Williams. I like it.
Übereil
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Post by Alrik on Apr 6, 2008 22:43:15 GMT
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Post by Ubereil on Apr 7, 2008 9:16:46 GMT
The War of the Flowers by Tad Williams. I like it. Übereil I've now finnished and I recomend it to anyone who likes Fantasy. It's kind of like a fairy tale for adults, thanks to the world it takes place in. It's populated by fairies of all kinds (everything from brownies to mountain trolls), some are cuter than others. Nice and balanced characters. If you (like me ;D) adored Annah you're going to love the fairy that saves Theo. ;D There's even some hidden social criticism, if you read between the lines. All in all a nice book, a pity it's not longer... ;D Übereil |
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