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Post by ss on May 15, 2009 16:34:43 GMT
Yes, but I think he stole Dante's concept....or was that the other way around..??  |
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Post by Elliot Kane on May 30, 2009 22:38:58 GMT
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Post by Elliot Kane on Jun 25, 2009 17:51:40 GMT
And now we have this rather fascinating project. Teaching good citizenship from the Islamic perspective. Chances are that'll do a lot more good than most other approaches. |
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Post by ss on Jun 25, 2009 22:59:40 GMT
"citizenship values and Islamic values are broadly compatible" Don't you find that a little disingenous..  ?? Without much research at all, I don't find that the "values" of islam is at all compatible with "western" values..?? What they are going to do is brainwash the kids and soon they will have them subverted to THEIR values....the tolerate nothing less. |
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Post by Elliot Kane on Jun 25, 2009 23:02:32 GMT
As opposed to every OTHER religion, who treat their own principples as things no-one but them should ever worry about, ss? ;D
Secular Islam IS broadly compatible with secular Christian values. They disagree on the details, yes, but there's no reason to think secular Islam cannot happily co-exist with Western society.
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Post by ss on Aug 17, 2009 13:23:20 GMT
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Post by Elliot Kane on Feb 6, 2010 22:35:30 GMT
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Post by Elliot Kane on Mar 2, 2010 10:22:07 GMT
Fatwa against terrorism issued. "The 600-page fatwa announces that "suicide bombings and attacks against civilian targets are not only condemned by Islam, but render the perpetrators totally out of the fold of Islam, in other words, to be unbelievers"."
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Post by Ubereil on Mar 2, 2010 11:09:25 GMT
About time, I say.
Übereil
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Post by Dark Phoenix Rising on Mar 2, 2010 13:29:35 GMT
Hmm, interesting, I note however that the article only states that the fatwa is against suicide bombings.
I also note that this is by a UK scholar, I suspect that for it to be more widely recognised others in other parts of islam will need to agree with it and not "counter claim"
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Post by Elliot Kane on Mar 2, 2010 15:29:35 GMT
That's the thing with Islam, DPR - there's no central authority or other major figure that all the rest bow to. Each Imam is his own authority and 'orthodoxy' is a matter of who wins the overall argument by convincing the most people.
A system with both strengths and weaknesses, of course...
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Post by Dark Phoenix Rising on Mar 2, 2010 16:24:24 GMT
hence what I was saying about other parts of islam having to agree for this to make much difference.
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Post by ss on Mar 7, 2010 18:40:27 GMT
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This is the Britain I love - we have a natural dislike of extremists of any kind and our British Muslims clearly feel the same 
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