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Post by Elliot Kane on Jun 2, 2005 9:38:45 GMT
Heh. My chance of staying out of this one was always gonna be 'Nonexistent unless dead'.
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Post by hector on Jun 2, 2005 9:41:48 GMT
Buffy is right on Carbon Dating - but forgets Geological Dating, which is a whole lot more reliable (Though not 100%, of course. No system is). Carbon 14 Dating is only one of many similar radiometric datings systems, too.
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Post by Terrordar on Jun 2, 2005 9:42:54 GMT
Its nice to know EK, I knew you'd probably smell the blood off this thread HUmans themselves show signs of evolution as well Some humans whose families have lived in mountains for thousands of years, take in oxygen much differently then we do, and can survive with less oxygen in the air. Or even different races of humans. Africans actually have shown some differneces when it comes to taking certain medications in the United States actually. Its very interesting.
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Post by hector on Jun 2, 2005 9:44:12 GMT
And of course, you're all forgeting the irrefutable proof of both Evolution and God.
Me.
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Post by Elliot Kane on Jun 2, 2005 9:47:30 GMT
Yep. Hec is a prime example of both Neanderthal Man, AND that God has a sense of humour! ;D
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Post by Terrordar on Jun 2, 2005 9:50:44 GMT
Neanderthal man actually had a larger brain then we do... Intersting huh?
Calling him such, may be a compliment to his IQ, if they had been allowed to continue down the path of civilization, they may have overtaken us.
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Post by Elliot Kane on Jun 2, 2005 9:53:01 GMT
Darn! I must be slipping badly... Accidental compliments! ;D
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Post by Terrordar on Jun 2, 2005 9:56:03 GMT
The main thing we don't know is if the bones in Neanderthal's throat allowed him to speak or not. We know he had the mental capacity to do so, and was more technologically advanced then Cro-Mag. But we're not sure on a language. They were thousands of years ahead of us really, in how they made their weapons, they made discoveries before us, and did cerimonial burials before we did as well. I wonder what killed them off... Probably us
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Post by Elliot Kane on Jun 2, 2005 10:13:32 GMT
More than likely, yes. Civilisation will always fall to brutal thuggery, and always has.
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Post by hector on Jun 2, 2005 10:14:17 GMT
See? If it weren't for me, all of you should have probably ended killing each other in this thread.
Further proof that I, indeed, rule.
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Post by Terrordar on Jun 2, 2005 10:14:44 GMT
Well, it more has to due with the fact, that from what we gathered, Neanderthal's reproduced at a much slower rate then we humans.
At their peek, we suspect there were only 400,000 of them.
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Post by Elliot Kane on Jun 2, 2005 10:28:01 GMT
The other possibility is that we may simply have interbred with them until they were functionally extinct, TD. There is no reason to suppose the two species were incompatible.
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Post by Terrordar on Jun 2, 2005 10:29:24 GMT
That option has been brought up.
It has yet to be proven or disproven, but there is no evidence to support either argument.
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Post by Elliot Kane on Jun 2, 2005 10:31:18 GMT
Right. No way of knowing for sure at this remove.
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Post by Terrordar on Jun 2, 2005 10:31:57 GMT
They thought they found some skeletons of hybrids, but the DNA results came back inconclusive.
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Post by peterh on Jun 2, 2005 12:30:39 GMT
You mean besides covering their eyes and ears and going 'lalalalala'? You might find a clue here but I warn you, your head might explode. BTW, not all religious groups think that way. The Catholic Church and many other forms of Christianity accept Evolution and the methaphorical value of the tales contained in the Bible. Only the stupid ones don't. What the #ยค%" is that? I'll stay out of the discussion but that comic's utter crap!
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Post by Tsel on Jun 2, 2005 12:58:04 GMT
Some Judicial beliefs believe the dinosaurs existed before Spiritual Man. Adam and Eve were not the first people here on this earth; they were the first people who had the Spirit of G_D. In Genesis it clearly states that Cain when to another tribe of people after he murdered Able. In the “Lost Books of Eden” it clearly expands this topic. In the “Zohar”, it clearly states that G_D allowed the destruction of the dinosaurs in order to save all humankind, both with and without the Spirit of G_D; otherwise humankind would be nothing more than archeological excrement.
Tsel
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Post by BJC on Jun 2, 2005 13:50:57 GMT
As for dinosaurs......MANY people are sled over the idea that they were created DURING bible times, just because the bible doesn't mention it....(which it does, and it also mentions many things on how long the earth has been here...which was mentioned.).
As for carbon dating, there is SO much guess work tossed around like a frisbee on Labor Day.... Read how carbon dating is done, there is so much circular reasoning, it would make your head spin.
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Post by BJC on Jun 2, 2005 13:53:26 GMT
Some Judicial beliefs believe the dinosaurs existed before Spiritual Man. Adam and Eve were not the first people here on this earth; they were the first people who had the Spirit of G_D. In Genesis it clearly states that Cain when to another tribe of people after he murdered Able. In the “Lost Books of Eden” it clearly expands this topic. In the “Zohar”, it clearly states that G_D allowed the destruction of the dinosaurs in order to save all humankind, both with and without the Spirit of G_D; otherwise humankind would be nothing more than archeological excrement. Tsel Tsel, that actually would make more sense towards early times....if the bible hadn't emphasized, that right then and there, right before Adam, was when the Earth was created.....Day one, two, three, four, five, and six involve the creation of what you see now....
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Post by Tsel on Jun 2, 2005 14:14:29 GMT
The thing you have to understand is the books that are in the bible existed individually before the whole as we know it now. There were hundreds of other books that were considered to be put into the bible, but were purposefully left out; because, the church decreed them not to be in the whole. One of many, situations is that a handful of chapters that were part of the book of Daniel were left out; because, the church so decreed. We also have the Apocrypha. Many of the books in the "Lost Books of Eden" were supposed to be included in the original biblical cannon, but were left out because they were not received quickly enough. Historical evidence will tell you that.
I have mentioned twice now that if one would simply read the "Zohar" things would make a lot more sense. Sadly, most consider topics like this boring and would rather read something else.
Tsel
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