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Post by Gray Lensman on May 11, 2008 19:15:08 GMT
Just finished "Doctor's Daughter", finally.  This season is being far too obvious in its social commentary so far, and this ep is just another instance of it. It's not a bad episode in and of itself, but that's really due to some good character development. This episode owes a great deal to Jenny, who's a great character. That said, the ending really is somewhat forced. It's clear the writers wanted Jenny to go in a different path from the Doctor, so they contrived a weak ending to make that happen. Shame, really. Oh, and this marks another episode where the guest-star offers far more to the series than Donna does, and yet is written out in a contrived way. Oh, well... hopefully Jenny will return later in the season, though I suspect she will. 
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Post by Elliot Kane on May 11, 2008 20:14:40 GMT
Cute kick-ass blondes being my Kryptonite, I had to check out The Doctor's Daughter. Martha is still cool (I always liked her) and I adore Jenny - such a fantastic character! Donna still irritates, but not as much. Overall though and despite Jenny being awesome I'd have to say it wasn't actually very good. A shame, as I was prepared to give the series more of a chance. But there were too many vast and gaping plot holes - like why Donna and Martha didn't end up getting immediately cloned the way the Doctor did. I'd also like to know how the general managed to look so old for a seven day war without being one of the original colonists as the rest are all relatively young. Too much like that which did not chime. Still... Jenny DID rule. I'll watch out for her again... 
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Post by Elliot Kane on May 16, 2008 21:17:19 GMT
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Post by Gray Lensman on May 16, 2008 23:32:55 GMT
Another nod for Steven Moffat. Darn well deserves it too; Blink was awesome. 
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Post by SPS on May 18, 2008 2:33:31 GMT
The Unicorn and the Wasp- Another eh. episode. And I think I'm noticing a trend here how many writers that appear on the show become read in the far future and are the best selling of all time? Didn't they say the same about Dickens and Shakespeare? Getting a bit full of ourselves aren't we?
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Post by Elliot Kane on May 18, 2008 3:57:14 GMT
Dickens was read 'until the end of time' rather than 'the best selling author ever'. Can't recall Shakespeare.
I suspect the 'best selling author of all time' will turn out to be Tolkien, though, in truth - though it's obviously not a thing any of us will ever know.
Will Christie be read 'forever'? Well, not as likely as Conan Doyle, IMO, for obvious reasons...
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Post by Gray Lensman on May 23, 2008 20:41:42 GMT
Finally got through "Unicorn & The Wasp"... it's passably decent. More a fun little romp than anything tremendously memorable. And yeah, there's a definite trend of hyping the authors on the show. Meeting historical figures from time to time is interesting... but I'd like to see more eps like "Girl In The Fireplace" that don't deal with writers as such. As for the future... well, it is the future, so anything can happen. So I'm okay with giving the show some license on this one.  Good news, though... next ep is Moffat's "Silence In The Library". Looking forward to it.
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Post by Elliot Kane on May 23, 2008 20:59:53 GMT
Apparently, Christie IS currently the best selling novelist of all time! Whether she will remain so is, of course, entirely a matter of conjecture...
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Post by Gray Lensman on Jun 2, 2008 11:52:05 GMT
"Silence In The Library"... thus far, easily the best episode of Season 4. Granted, this isn't saying much. Nor is it a terrible surprise, with Steven Moffat at the helm of this one. Still, good to know that this season hasn't been complete rubbish.  The shadow monsters are actually pretty darn creepy, must be said. Moffat does quite well with horror and creating alien monsters. And what happened to Donna at the end was cool... though I feel sorry for anyone in the Library to have to have Donna for a computer interface. ;D And I'm really curious to find out what that space archaeologist's "past" (well, more like "future") with the Doctor really is... a Companion from the Doctor's future, maybe? (Though the Doctor is wrong about not giving sonic screwdrivers away... he did give a sonic device to Sarah Jane Smith... who darn well earned it!) I do rather like the way Moffat plays with the idea of time travel in his episodes, either way.  Great stuff, but then I expect nothing less from Moffat. Looking forward to "Forest of the Dead". 
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Post by SPS on Jun 2, 2008 13:33:59 GMT
I quite liked this episode also, and agree with Gray that it is the best episode of season 4 thus far. Actually Gray pretty much summed up my feelings for the episode.
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Post by Elliot Kane on Jun 3, 2008 9:18:52 GMT
I watched this one because it's Moffat and I have to agree it was pretty darned awesome.
Great way to intro a new character (Though next time we see her, she'll be a lot younger, presumably! Typical Moffat! ;D)
Can't fault it. Genuinely creepy, superbly written and with some great acting all round.
Loved Donna getting 'saved' but that was just the icing on the cake ;D
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Post by SPS on Jun 3, 2008 13:14:08 GMT
Also one thing I forgot to mention but I loved was the bit with the Sonic Screwdriver not working on wood. One of the best parts of the episode.
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Post by Elliot Kane on Jun 3, 2008 13:20:41 GMT
It's great to see the thing limited again, I agree. It was always supposed to be a high tech toy rather than a deus ex machina, and works best if it is sometimes useless, IMO.
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Post by Elliot Kane on Jun 7, 2008 17:40:49 GMT
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Post by SPS on Jun 8, 2008 1:00:31 GMT
Another great episode of Doctor Who this week. Lots of amazing twists and like Moffat's other episodes it carried an emotional impact that really got to me.
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Post by Elliot Kane on Jun 8, 2008 8:46:05 GMT
Yeah, I agree. That ruled. Moffat has an absolute genius for this, I think. I LOVE the way the Doctor intimidates the Vashta Nerada - "You're the biggest library in the universe. I'm the Doctor. Look me up." Just great writing.
Complex without being confusing.
The only drawback is we're now back to lesser writers...
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Post by rhiian on Jun 8, 2008 13:52:11 GMT
i wanna know what his name is lol. the archeologist woman does my nutt in. they seem to be implying they're married or something close... >.< i wont let it happen!!!
the spoilers thing is kinda annoying too. (kinda handily) on one cathrine tate show episode she's asking someone from eastenders "what happens in the end?" and we cant ever know what happens in the end but i dont mind if she spoils it for the doctor... it means then i can go and stop it happening ;D
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Post by SPS on Jun 8, 2008 14:18:06 GMT
I don't think the Doctor and the archaeologist were married. It would be interesting if they were because of the fact that he knew her fate. It says alot about the Doctor if he marries somebody who he knows their fate already. But I don't think they were married.
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Post by Elliot Kane on Jun 8, 2008 14:36:16 GMT
It was strongly hinted they might be, SPS, I thought. Nothing definite, no, but the relationship she thought they had was nothing remotely casual.
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Post by SPS on Jun 8, 2008 15:24:57 GMT
I guess. But I think it's very interesting that he marries somebody whom he already knows their fate.
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