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Post by Elliot Kane on Jun 8, 2008 16:41:18 GMT
Interesting, slightly weird - and VERY Moffat! ;D
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Post by Gray Lensman on Jun 9, 2008 2:27:10 GMT
Another great episode. And for the third year in a row, Moffat delivers the best story of the whole season.  I didn't get the impression that the Doctor and River were married. Especially considering the Doctor knew what would eventually happen to her the entire time. I more got the impression that River is a Companion from the future. Their relationship is pretty typical of the usual Doctor/Companion dynamic, right down to the undercurrent of tension. But who knows. With Moffat at the helm, I could well see River coming back as a regular Companion in a few years' time. |
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Post by SPS on Jun 9, 2008 3:26:36 GMT
What I liked most is that in a short period of time Moffat made me care about River and when she sacrificed herself I nearly cried, it was if I had known her for a long time.
I am looking forward to seeing River as a companion especially if it occurs during Moffat's time as head writer on Who.
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Post by Elliot Kane on Jun 9, 2008 9:03:12 GMT
The interesting thing will be who plays 'Young River'. With Moffat as the new head writer, I'm thinking we'll see her in the next full season. Which should make life very interesting...
Steve - you only got 'normal Companion' dynamic? Really? Even to the Doctor telling her his name?
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Post by mobbie on Jun 9, 2008 15:56:35 GMT
Is Dr Who entertaining? I'm not much into TV series but it did catch my eye sometime, been wavering.
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Post by Elliot Kane on Jun 9, 2008 16:27:51 GMT
It can be a bit patchy, Mobs, but mostly, yes. Or at least I think so |
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Post by mobbie on Jun 9, 2008 18:32:51 GMT
rgr!
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Post by Gray Lensman on Jun 9, 2008 23:50:07 GMT
Steve - you only got 'normal Companion' dynamic? Really? Even to the Doctor telling her his name? Depends on why he did that. He could very well have told River his name because he knew that she would tell him in her future... because that was the only thing that would convince him to trust her. He can't well alter the chain of events once they're set in motion. "Wibbly wobbly, timey wimey." ;D I don't think River would be in the normal class of Companions, no... but I could quite easily see the Doctor regarding her much as he would someone like, say, Sarah Jane (the only other person that the Doctor trusts with a sonic device). The marriage thing is possible, sure... I just don't think it's necessarily the only way to interpret the facts we have. |
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Post by Elliot Kane on Jun 10, 2008 0:35:25 GMT
At the least I read it as 'very serious relationship' honestly. Just from the look in her eyes...
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Post by Gray Lensman on Jun 10, 2008 2:01:54 GMT
Yeah, could well be. We'll find out in two years, I'm guessing. |
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Post by Elliot Kane on Jun 10, 2008 2:34:47 GMT
Likely so |
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Post by Gray Lensman on Jun 15, 2008 20:45:33 GMT
"Midnight"... back to Davies, and unfortunately, he slips back into mediocrity.
Basically, we have a disaster plot that hinges on the entire group of passengers acting like idiots the entire way through until the very end. I get the feeling that Davies was aiming for something along the lines of Rod Serling's classic Twilight Zone episode "The Monsters Are Due On Maple Street". The theme is basically the same; the monster isn't an alien invader, but the panicked mob mentality of the group. The problem is that the execution of it isn't very good, and it gets worse when you have the Doctor around to point out how insane the mob is acting.
To be fair, there's some good points. Donna isn't in it much, which by itself is a blessing. I actually love the fact that for once, the Doctor makes his big speech to the humans... and it doesn't work. ;D The concept of the villain is actually a decent one, but it's spoiled some by the execution. The problem is that the story really doesn't explain what the creature is or what it was doing there... without that, it feels like it runs on the rail of coincidence, and ventures a bit too much into contrivance.
Oh, and the wrong person saves the day. The heroic sacrifice should have gone to the research assistant... the whole way through, I was expecting her to grow a backbone and get her incompetent professor boss to stand down. Doesn't happen, unfortunately. As a result, the actual hero at the end of the episode feels like it comes out of left field, and not in a good way.
It isn't a horrible episode... it's more mediocre than outright bad. But coming on the heels of a great Moffat two-parter, the flaws in it are more glaring. Especially with the darned annoying shouting and the constant repetitive dialogue in the second half of "Midnight". I shan't see this one again... the first time was irritating enough. ;D
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Post by rhiian on Jun 21, 2008 17:23:42 GMT
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Post by Elliot Kane on Jun 21, 2008 17:27:54 GMT
Almost certainly right on Davros... Be interesting to see 'New Davros'. I'll be watching the new one coz Rose is back and Rose is cool |
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Post by Elliot Kane on Jun 21, 2008 22:55:49 GMT
Turn Left has a fair bit of padding, but overall a strong ep, I thought. Well plotted and with some excellent characterisation. Only real problem was that Billie is SO good she shows up the shortcomings of Catherine Tate's acting skills - that would not seem half so bad playing against a lesser actress. Overall though, good. Makes me want to see the next one |
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Post by Gray Lensman on Jun 22, 2008 23:34:59 GMT
Turn Left was a pretty decent episode. A strong step up from Midnight, and easily the best Davies has written all season. I like the way this episode shows how important the Companion really is to the Doctor, even though the plot structure is pretty simple. Kind of "This Is Your Life, Donna Noble". ;D Billie Piper definitely overshadowed the whole episode, yeah. Although given that she actually had a character with a clearly defined personality, that's not too surprising. All in all, a good setup to the conclusion of Season 4. Davros coming back would be cool... been way too long since we've seen him. Hopefully the ending will live up to its potential. |
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Post by Elliot Kane on Jun 23, 2008 0:45:23 GMT
Therein doth lie the trick... But we can certainly hope so |
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Post by rhiian on Jun 23, 2008 15:55:11 GMT
lol i think turn left was pretty dissapointing.
there was a big hype of "OMG OMG OGM ROSE COMING BACK WID A BIG GUN!" but its not going to be until next episode she has the big gun.
but rose is awesome with or without big gun (probably more awesome with tho ;D)
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Post by Elliot Kane on Jun 28, 2008 20:55:23 GMT
NOW Rose is back with a big gun! ;D
The Stolen Earth is an excellent ep too, with more than a few shocks. Can only wonder what'll happen next ep, now... Are we seeing what we think we are? Hmmm...
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Post by Gray Lensman on Jun 29, 2008 7:14:00 GMT
So far so good. The first big crossover between the Who shows, and it went pretty well. Good to see Davros again, too. He's one of the few great unused villains, and it's probably right for Davies to end his run with him. Really interesting that Davros cannibalized his own body to restore the Daleks, too... it shows how creepy and fanatical he is. Although, if this ending is what it looks like... argh! I really hope it isn't, for obvious reasons, but if it is... well, I can see where it would be the right place to begin the Moffat era. Darn teases. ;D |
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