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Post by janggut on Sept 13, 2005 5:09:51 GMT
i have reached chapter 250. will give comments plus my comments on Shan's comments. ;D it seems like there's one story missing in manga which the anime has.
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Post by philster on Sept 13, 2005 7:46:56 GMT
Sure Shan, sounds good to me. =)
Especially since now that Jags is about to catch up with us too, it looks like, huzzah! Though he still has about 25 more chapters to go, hehe. Hurry up young man! I'll be looking forward to seeing your own comments too.
I never imagined the Naruto Club would be this successful. It's cool. =)
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Post by philster on Sept 13, 2005 7:50:50 GMT
And Shan, you still haven't commented on anything for Part 2 except the most recent chapters. What do you think about all the (Spoiler) new designs, like Gaara? What was your reaction when you found out Gaara became Kazekage? What about Gaara's fight with Deidara? And Kankurou trying to save him? Then when Naruto and company fought Itachi and Kisame, and they turned out to be underlings borrowing some of their chakra? What do you think about that monster summoning the Akatsuki is using to extract the tailed demons out of their containers? What about Zetsu, the cannibal half-plant Akatsuki, are you curious about him? Were you surprised about one of the older Kazekages turning out to be one of Sasori's puppets? (/Spoiler) Okay, I think that's enough for now.
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Post by Shan on Sept 13, 2005 17:20:18 GMT
Hey, Phil, what happened to you? You look batty all of a sudden. ;D Cool new avatar. Shan
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Post by Shan on Sept 13, 2005 17:38:08 GMT
And Shan, you still haven't commented on anything for Part 2 except the most recent chapters. What do you think about all the (Spoiler) new designs, like Gaara? What was your reaction when you found out Gaara became Kazekage? What about Gaara's fight with Deidara? And Kankurou trying to save him? Then when Naruto and company fought Itachi and Kisame, and they turned out to be underlings borrowing some of their chakra? What do you think about that monster summoning the Akatsuki is using to extract the tailed demons out of their containers? What about Zetsu, the cannibal half-plant Akatsuki, are you curious about him? Were you surprised about one of the older Kazekages turning out to be one of Sasori's puppets? (/Spoiler) Okay, I think that's enough for now. Were those things important? ;D See another reason I needed desperately to catch up with you. I forget to mention stuff that might be important or good stuff to talk about. OK, I will add some comments about all of that. One thing though: Spoiler:In what chapter was Zetsu, the cannibal half-plant Akatsuki? And yeah, I am curious about him now that you mention it, but I need to read the part about him again, because I really don't remember what happened with him.Shan
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Post by philster on Sept 13, 2005 18:31:23 GMT
Shan, I just came across this Batman pic: www.darkknight.ca/gallery/batman.jpg and liked it a lot so yeah... I felt in a batty mood. Thanks. ;D Naruto Part 2 SPOILER: We haven't had many appearances by Zetsu yet. He first appeared at the end of the Sasuke-Naruto fight in chapter 234, on the last page. There he seemed to have two "voices." You also see him in the shadowy two-page spread of the Akatsuki meeting in chapter 238.
His most prominent appearances so far, he seemed to be acting as the Akatsuki's scout in chapter 255 on page 10, and then his most infamous scene so far - eating the Kisame imposter on page 11 of chapter 261! Yummy!
He REALLY makes me curious.=)
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Post by Sariachan on Sept 14, 2005 3:36:31 GMT
You post so many comments, Shantara! O__O I'll comment something about the past story arcs later, since I've to go to bed now. By the way...I saw the first two English dubbed Naruto episodes and, unfortunately, I didn't liked them. The translations and adaptations are really good, but the voice actors....brrr....I can't listen to them, especially Iruka who can't act properly. The JP voice actors are on a completely different level. I didn't liked the edits, too...I really can't see the point of them. I saw lots of anime when I was a child, and much more violent than Naruto...I don't know if you ever saw Devilman (the TV version, not the OAVs) or Bem or Tiger Man, but there were lots of blood and violence in those anime, still I haven't become a killer or a violent person only for seeing blood in cartoons, lol. ^^ Well, I think I'm too much an anime fan for what they truly are to see dubs after having discovered the joys of subs, anyway.
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Post by philster on Sept 14, 2005 4:06:14 GMT
Sariachan, in America, parents are more nitpicky about what their children see, and Toonami is a kids' cartoon network, so I kind of expected the edits for the Naruto cartoon. Sorry you didn't like it - I thought it was cool, but I also didn't have to deal with the voices. Yeah. Seems like that's the major complaint everybody has with it, especially Naruto.
Still came out on top in the ratings though, so maybe we will get some nice Naruto merchandise as a result (video games, video games, video games!)
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Post by janggut on Sept 14, 2005 6:25:02 GMT
well u haven't gone through the worst torture that is the malay dub. Naruto, Sasuke sound a lot like a dude in his 20's yet the characters may still be early to catch puberty. ;D
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Post by philster on Sept 16, 2005 8:33:36 GMT
I heard about that actually.. there are a lot of Malaysian Naruto fans at NarutoForums. Anyway, the following is for the eyes of everybody who's now with the most current Naruto chapter (that just came out today), 276. Every week, at NF, I will post 10 comments, and have been doing it since chapter 247. People seem to enjoy my thoughts, so here you go. Right now the only people who will probably want to read my comments include Shantara and Sariachan, and Jags when he catches up. Everybody else though.. read at your risk. 10 Comments for Chapter 276 Well, the RAW's finally out eh? Weird week. I never thought I'd ever read the translation BEFORE actually reading the chapter.
Anyway, my 10 comments.. on with it...
1. Cover - is it just me, or is Kishimoto starting to seem tired with his artistic style? He seems to be trying to break out of his usual style, or maybe it's just that he's still trying to get comfortable with drawing Naruto as a 14-year old? I bet it's the latter... though he certainly seems to be comfortable drawing Sakura.
2. Kakashi's Sharingan eye - it certainly is different-looking from Itachi's, yet it's also called a Mangekyou? There's something more to this than... uh, meets the eye... sorry, that was lame.
3. Not sure what the point of Naruto's comments towards Kakashi were - I guess he was actually underestimating Kakashi a little.
4. You know, when I initially read the script, I thought that the whole deal with the Sharingan eye distorting reality was pretty cool, but was nervous about how Kishimoto would pull it off art-wise. Actually it turned out pretty neat. Kishimoto seems to have a real knack for "special effect" art.
5. Deidara's arm exploded as a result. Armless Deidara. You know, I never really understood how Deidara was able to withstand the pain of losing his FIRST arm to Gaara. He may have screamed a bit here, but close to the end of the chapter he seemed to just shrug it off (well what else could he do, I suppose). Still, he seems a heckuva lot like a cyborg.
6. I think Kishimoto was worn out a bit drawing dramatic scenes after the Sasori-Sakura fight. Naruto's "Rasengan" attack on Deidara just didn't have the "oompah" of previous similar scenes. Still, I suppose Naruto was only doing it as a diversion, to scare Deidara off, and to get Gaara out of the bird.
7. But how exactly DID Naruto know where to strike the bird without injuring Gaara? A bit of a plot hole there.
8. Page 16, where the two Narutos are looking down at Gaara, that's the best panel in the chapter. Pretty nicely drawn.
9. Can't say I blame Naruto for being angry and wanting to deal with Deidara right away. I guess he hid another clone close to where Deidara was sitting.
10. The last double spread was pretty cool. But I don't know if this is truly the end of the fight. Something's just really fishy about the way Deidara was able to handle the pain of losing not only one, but now two arms. I really wonder what Kishimoto has in store for us next chapter.
Overall, not a bad chapter, but not a great one, either.
// End 10 Comments.
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Post by philster on Sept 16, 2005 8:55:16 GMT
One more Comment (276) --- p.s. Though it WAS cool to see Kakashi in serious action again. That reminds me of something though, judging by his "Guh..." and covering his eye in pain, the MS is obviously leaving a strain on Kakashi's eye. See all the lines on his eye when he's using it? Reminded me of when Itachi used his MS on Sasuke in chapter 224. Guess it REALLY is ruining their eyesight. // End Comment...
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Post by Shan on Sept 16, 2005 15:17:19 GMT
it is all phil's fault. ;D shan
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Post by Shan on Sept 16, 2005 15:24:35 GMT
this is true and i am one of those parents. i monitor what my girls watch closely. i really think there are alot better things they can be doing besides sitting and watching tv. shan
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Post by Shan on Sept 16, 2005 18:29:41 GMT
Naruto Part 2 SPOILER: We haven't had many appearances by Zetsu yet. He first appeared at the end of the Sasuke-Naruto fight in chapter 234, on the last page. There he seemed to have two "voices." You also see him in the shadowy two-page spread of the Akatsuki meeting in chapter 238.
His most prominent appearances so far, he seemed to be acting as the Akatsuki's scout in chapter 255 on page 10, and then his most infamous scene so far - eating the Kisame imposter on page 11 of chapter 261! Yummy!
He REALLY makes me curious. OK, I am going to try to get things caught up, and I am going to start with this guy Zetsu. Spoiler:Zetsu is a real puzzle to me. There has not been much about him and even at that not much if any info really given. Do we know what villlage he is from? Wonder if he is from the Grass Village or was there such a village? He kinda reminds me of a flesh eating plant. ;D
We know he is a cannibal. Yummy as Phil puts it, but I think it is Yuck. My biggest question when I read this "Is he one or two people combined. He seems to be talking to himself or to another part of himself? He says "Let's hurry up and eat him."
Yeah, I am kinda curious about him too. Shan
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Post by Shan on Sept 16, 2005 19:26:12 GMT
More comments. ;D Spoiler: One of the biggest surprises was to find out that Gaara had been made Kazekage. I never expected the Sand Village to accept him like that. I really wonder what made them change their minds?
I've always kinda like Gaara, or maybe at first I felt really sorry for him for the way he had been treated. I really started to like him alot at the end of the fight he had with Naruto and then all I could do was cheer when he came to the rescue of Lee. That was so great.
Now to see him as Kazekage of his village in a way I feel good for him. I think at last he was able to put some of the hate behind him and find something more in life.
I was really shocked when he lost the battle with Deidara. I never expected him to be able to beat Gaara. I guess I thought Gaara couldn't be beaten by somebody like that.
It also made me wonder if the change in Gaara took away some of his strength or desire to kill and maybe that was the reason he was defeated.
As for Kankurou trying to save him, I felt like somebody should have concern enough to try to help him. I guess you could say I was a little disappointed in the Sand at this point. Maybe Kankurou acted rash and it did almost cost him his life, but I was still pulling for him all the way. I really wanted him to succeed. Sasori just seemed alot stronger than Kankurou so when he ran into him, I don't guess he had much chance.
I want Gaara back. I want him OK and back. I like Gaara.
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Post by Shan on Sept 16, 2005 19:54:30 GMT
Wow, Phil, can you believe this? I've got even more comments for you. ;D Spoiler: Naruto and Katashi fighting those two characters seemed kinda strange from the start. I don't know exactly what it was but neither of them really seemed real. Itachi just seemed wierd. And so I wasn't surprised when I found out they weren't real and were just a delay tatic. What did you think of this battle? Did anything about it seem strange to you?
The extraction ceremony is still a strange one to me. I honestly don't know. I think the whole time I was thinking "You can't do that. You can't do that to Gaara. You can't kill him. That's about it. I was mad and wanted to cry. I got very emotional.
One of the older Kazekages as a puppet, another shock for me. When they were talking about him having disappeared I never once thought about Sasori and not until he brought him out. I wonder just how Sasori managed it though. Evidently the old Kazekage had a good bit of strength and wasn't stupid. I guess though with Sasori being as powerful as he was though, he could easily beat him. I really can't imagine taking a human and turning him into a puppet though. Yuck, the mess and smell. ooooooo, nope don't want no human puppet. ;DDid I do good? ;D Shan
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Post by Shan on Sept 16, 2005 19:57:04 GMT
OK, next time I get to comment on your chapter 276 comments. ;D Can't remember did we talk about Chiyo any here or not? If not, I guess I should post at least something about her. Hey, what about us posting your comments and my comments to yours from the previous two or three chapters in case someone might be interested in them? I still have them I think if you don't. Shan
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Post by philster on Sept 16, 2005 20:30:22 GMT
Sure, Shan, if you don't think all the extra comments overwhelm the others... ;D Maybe we should just wait until somebody expresses an interest though.
Zetsu - I do think he's from the Grass myself. It would seem very fitting.
Gaara - Becoming the Kazekage was one of the last things I expected to see Gaara do. But despite that, I think the Sand did it more out of respect and fear than anything else. Some of the Sand may have cheered Gaara on while he was fighting Deidara, but then we get a reality check in chapter 266 when the Suna Council members called Gaara a danger. Gaara may be on the path to acceptance, but he's got a long way yet to go. Especially after this defeat, he may be seen as more vulnerable.
Kankurou - I've never really liked Kankurou until when he went to save Gaara in chapter 250. And even when he saw all the dead Suna soldiers at the cliffs, he still went on. I instantly became a fan of him.
Impostors - Yeah, it WAS kind of weird how we got fights with Itachi and Kisame so soon. Aren't they important villains to the story? But I didn't think they would be impostors. That seems to be the "Leader" of the Akatsuki's ability - to transfer chakra from one person to another and make them into duplicates of the originals. Sariachan and I both think the "Leader" must be a Kage, perhaps of the Cloud Country, and that's why all the clouds on the Akatsuki's uniforms?
Third Kazekage - Well, I thought Sasori must have poisoned the Kazekage and gotten him that way. The old-fashioned way - poisoning his food, something like that. But now, after seeing what Sasori could do, I don't think even the best Kage can avoid the poison of 100 blades from a puppet army, not that I think Sasori may have even needed to rely on them.
Chiyo - yeah we haven't talked about her yet. Sariachan really likes her, too. =)
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Post by Shan on Sept 17, 2005 2:40:33 GMT
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Post by Shan on Sept 17, 2005 2:48:34 GMT
The idea you and Sariachan have about the Leader sounds good to me. Spoiler:I had never really thought about the clouds on the Akatsuki's uniforms before but if the Leader is from the Cloud country then that could very well be the reason for them.
Why do you think he is a Kage?Shan
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