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Post by kitty on May 28, 2009 15:26:44 GMT
Hold your breath! ;D You were quite clear before - actually I was counting on it, hence the pre-condition  {you certainly seem a multi-fuse person - easy to lit on various topics, and explosive!  } I´m afraid so  But I can be as easy and sweet as a lamb and patient.... if I want to. Sadly, I often don´t. Never sure if that´s a positive or a negative thing... |
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Post by Glance A'Lot on May 28, 2009 17:58:15 GMT
Never sure if that´s a positive or a negative thing... ...on the receiving end I'd call that - irritating.
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Post by kilgoretrout on May 28, 2009 22:26:36 GMT
Kitty , you seem to make clear that you hold disdain or "hate" for all things that aren't YOU . Is that a fair portrait?
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Post by Elliot Kane on May 28, 2009 22:32:24 GMT
Kitty , you seem to make clear that you hold disdain or "hate" for all things that aren't YOU . Is that a fair portrait? I can answer that one: no, it's not fair at all. Kitty and I have almost nothing in common and disagree about nearly everything on a level so fundamental that it's safe to say we are almost complete opposites. And we hit it off almost immediately. I'm the one who persuaded her to join Chaos, in fact. Draw your own conclusions... |
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Post by kilgoretrout on May 28, 2009 23:57:07 GMT
Elliot Kane , do you two know each other in real life? Perhaps it is the faux " best foot forward" mythology that you percieve as a meaningful portrayal of an internet persona that is actually what seems to make you "hit it off" ....? maybe , not sure.
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Post by Elliot Kane on May 29, 2009 0:23:22 GMT
This IS 'real life' Kilgore But no, we don't know each other offline. However, why would anyone ever pretend to like anyone else online who they really despised but would never meet in real life? There's just no point in it. In the online world, people drift in and out of each other's attention all the time without particularly catching each other's eye (In the proverbial sense, of course ;D). Kitty and I enjoy disagreeing with each other. It's been the basis of our online relationship since we first met on another forum. If I did not genuinely like her, I would not have invited her to join Chaos. I suspect if she disliked me, she'd never have agreed to join. Anecdotal perhaps, but fairly compelling nonetheless, I think |
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Post by kilgoretrout on May 29, 2009 0:28:31 GMT
I have found myself thinking about the "characters" I have met in forums, though as far as real life is concerned , not sure about that. First of all writing or typing gives one much more time to deliberate when choosing words and what emotions one wants to ilicit or convey.
Let me ask you , would you be able to be socially as nimble as you might be on a forum in face to face encounters?
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Post by Elliot Kane on May 29, 2009 0:46:01 GMT
I'm actually somewhat better offline, because running an RPG group for ten years will do that for you My writing style is a slightly more formal version of my speaking style, but it can tend towards the stilted at times. Face to face, I can read tones of voice, body language and other subtle indicators that are not apparent in a text based conversation, too, so there are many advantages. |
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Post by Ubereil on May 29, 2009 6:24:35 GMT
I have found myself thinking about the "characters" I have met in forums, though as far as real life is concerned , not sure about that. First of all writing or typing gives one much more time to deliberate when choosing words and what emotions one wants to ilicit or convey. Let me ask you , would you be able to be socially as nimble as you might be on a forum in face to face encounters? Calling what you call 'real life' 'real life' isn't very accurate, because it gives the impression that communicating on forums is somehow... not real. Forums is as much as part of 'real life' as what you call 'real life', it's just another part of it. You communicate on another level on forums but that doesn't mean that it's less legit, that it's somehow "worse". It's a different part of real life, that's all. And, unlike Elliot, I'm acually far less nimble in face to face encounters as I am on forums (or when instant messaging, even). Übereil |
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Post by Glance A'Lot on May 29, 2009 6:41:44 GMT
Not soo long ago, if you were writing letters regularly with someone you hadn't yet met in person you had a relation with a pen friend, you enjoyed writing the letters and you waited eagerly for a response - it unquestionably was a real part of your life. In principle online communication is not different. And 'being lost in a virtual world' is and was not limited to electronics... Kitty , you seem to make clear that you hold disdain or "hate" for all things that aren't YOU . Is that a fair portrait? The logic of that conclusion is not obvious to me - I'd also say that it is definitely not a fair portrait. Turning it around would mean only respect and love for herself, and that's not it either. |
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Post by kilgoretrout on May 29, 2009 21:45:48 GMT
The line about kitty and "hate" was a reaction to what she had to say about kids and parents and how she hates them.
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Post by Flix on May 30, 2009 0:50:53 GMT
Good god no. I became active on Chaos Cascade because I had just moved to a new state and didn't know anyone yet - it was a supplemental way of socializing with far less pressure.
From my POV it's just an idiosyncracy of Kit's that she just makes it very clear in discussions WHAT she hates or disdains...nothing to read too much into.
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Post by kitty on May 30, 2009 7:37:40 GMT
Wow damnit I should come here about 20 times a day to answer quick enough.. first of, dear Kil - I´m not a troll, I´ve got somewhat of a life and simply am a very opinionated person who post in a forum for uh.. opinions! Furthermore was your sentence about my disdain pretty onesided. Why can´t I dislike or even hate what I´m not? Do I have to have cancer to say that it sucks? In todays time and with laws for free speech, I believe I can say whatever I want as long as I don´t hurt someones etiquette online or break some kind of other law - and well, some people have strong opinions. I could have not written that, and I probably wouldn´t have with someone I never chattet before with - but that was Glance and I (though just virtually) "know" him and I was quite sure he wouldn´t be mad. If I´d care only about things concerning me, man, my life would be boring! On another note - I adore Eli, he is the coolest "let´s argue" person I´ve ever met. If I really cross a line (and I admit I do at times), he simply writes me a line and I stop. As easy as that. |
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Post by kilgoretrout on May 30, 2009 8:13:07 GMT
Wow damnit I should come here about 20 times a day to answer quick enough.. first of, dear Kil - I´m not a troll, I´ve got somewhat of a life and simply am a very opinionated person who post in a forum for uh.. opinions! Furthermore was your sentence about my disdain pretty onesided. Why can´t I dislike or even hate what I´m not? Do I have to have cancer to say that it sucks? In todays time and with laws for free speech, I believe I can say whatever I want as long as I don´t hurt someones etiquette online or break some kind of other law - and well, some people have strong opinions. I could have not written that, and I probably wouldn´t have with someone I never chattet before with - but that was Glance and I (though just virtually) "know" him and I was quite sure he wouldn´t be mad. If I´d care only about things concerning me, man, my life would be boring! On another note - I adore Eli, he is the coolest "let´s argue" person I´ve ever met. If I really cross a line (and I admit I do at times), he simply writes me a line and I stop. As easy as that. By all means you have the right to "hate". In consideration to the title of this thread I think it is worth mentioning that "hate" and judgement are petty means by which one props up their own self worth. |
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Post by Elliot Kane on May 30, 2009 12:13:19 GMT
Kilgore - aren't you judging Kitty right now? Something you may wish to think about |
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Post by kilgoretrout on May 30, 2009 14:26:11 GMT
Not at all , making observations , where have I made a statement that presumes I am somehow different or better? In fact I may be exactly the same as her, though it might be benificial to be clrear about who we are concerning our "Self Image Honesty".
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Post by Elliot Kane on May 30, 2009 14:41:08 GMT
It is a rare person who criticises others for faults they believe they themselves possess. An observation, merely As for 'who we are', well, that's all down to opinion, really. My idea of who I am and someone else's idea of who I am will be completely different, I have no doubt. You know what they say about opinions... |
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Post by kilgoretrout on May 30, 2009 15:02:05 GMT
Was I criticising ? From my pov I was trying to point out that if you are going to be honest about your "self image" you should found out about some of the particulars that erect it.
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Post by Elliot Kane on May 30, 2009 15:04:23 GMT
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Post by kitty on May 30, 2009 16:39:14 GMT
My statements about kids had nothing to do with the thread title. It was merely an reaction to a sentence I heard way too often ("when you are expecting we talk again...").
And kil, my personal pov is that you judged me. Now, prove me wrong. You can´t cause like Eli said, it´s a matter of opinion.
If I´d really be afraid of someone on here or anywhere else to dislike what I say, I wouldn´t say it. So consider me sure about my actions. (and if you wish, declare that vain and uncalled for)
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